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25-09-09, 12:19
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can anybody find her in 1901 or her death
Mary Ann Sperring born abt 1834 Midsomer Norton Somerset
1841 in Somerset with family 1851 ditto 1857 married Jesse kemp 1861 with Jesse kemp and children Emily born 1857 and Alfred born 1859 living in Regents park St Pancras 1871 Jesse is by himself in Shoreditch as Mary had left him no sign of her and the children 1881 she is Mary Tyler wife of George Tyler but no sign of a marriage with her two new children Walter 8 and Charles 6 living in Bethnal Green he is an Ironmonger 1891 Mary and George no sign of children are still in Bethnal Green he is still an Ironmonger 1901 cannot find either of them 1911 George is by himself as a Widow in a Workhouse in Shoreditch 1916 He dies in the Workhouse according to a letter by Dr Barnados Mary is alive in 1899 living in Bethnal Green Road as Mrs Mary Tyler Can anybody find her and the children in 1871 and help me narrow down her death PLEASE
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25-09-09, 12:36
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Can you give the references for the censuses where you have found Jesse in 1871?
How do you know that Mary Tyler is your Mary Kemp? Margaret
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25-09-09, 12:43
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Do you know which of these is the son Walter, aged 8 in 1881?
Births Jun 1872 TYLER Walter William G Holborn 1b 680 Births Jun 1873 TYLER Walter Holborn 1b 702
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25-09-09, 12:46
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Alfred is down as 3 months old on the 1861 census, which would mean he was born in 1861, not 1859, wouldn't it?
The IGI has a baptism at St Leonards Shoreditch 17 Dec 1864 for an Alice Grace Kemp born 22 Dec 1864, parents Jesse and Mary, if that's any help?
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25-09-09, 12:49
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I think I've found the Jesse Kemp you are referring to in 1871 here ref RG10; Piece: 440; Folio: 79; Page: 46.
How can you be sure he is your man? his occupation is shown as fur skin dyer, whereas in 1861 he is a coachman. I would be a bit hesitant to say these are the same men, myself. Margaret
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25-09-09, 12:50
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And of course I just realised we can look the baptisms up on ancestry!
Emily baptised Mar 7th 1858 All Hallows, Tottenham Alfred William baptised Jan 1st 1860 Christ Church St Pancras, so he was born 1859, sorry. Alice Grace baptised 17 Jan 1864 St Leonard Shoreditch, date of birth 22 Dec 1863, residence 23 Nelson(?) St.
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25-09-09, 12:52
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Where does Martha Tyler aged 14 in 1881 fit in? I assumed she was George T's child from a previous relationship, but I can't find her in 1871.
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25-09-09, 12:52
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Is this Walter's baptism?
John Walter Kemp, baptised Nov 25 1873 St Pancras Old Church, mother Mary Ann Kemp, Workhouse.
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25-09-09, 12:55
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25-09-09, 12:55
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hi and thanks have
Alfred William Kemp Birth Cert 13 November 1859 Thanet Road Broadstairs Kent its the second Walter born in 1873 do have his birth cert 1871 RG10 440 79 page 46 Jessie kemp born 1829 Tottenham Its a long story but a contact told me about her and a Tyler
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