Charlotte Elizabeth McCloud - Genealogists' Forum

Olde Crone · #1 22-09-09, 20:15

EDIT - further info required, please go to post #64.

Where the thump is she in 1901 and/or 1911?

She was born Dec 1897 in Aston Birmingham, but can I find her, no I can't! She is not the one with parents Albert and Florence, as I can identify that one later on as Charlotte May McCloud.

Please don't spend any credits on 1911, but would appreciate a push in the right direction - she may have been in a Home or other Institution.

This is for a friend, whose mother (still alive, I'm posting with her permission) suspects that Charlotte Elizabeth never married her father even though her parents SAID they married at Marylebone RO in 1933.

Any help much appreciated, thankyou.

OC

Merry · #2 22-09-09, 20:26

I hate to say this, but:

Births Dec 1897
McCloud Charlotte Elizabeth Aston 6d 328

Deaths Mar 1899
MCCLOUD Charlotte Elizabeth 1 Aston 6d 214

Merry · #3 22-09-09, 20:40

Can we know who she is supposed to have married in 1933, or is that too much info?!

Merry · #4 22-09-09, 20:46

Has your friend's mum got her own full birth cert?

Merry · #5 22-09-09, 20:59

*looks forward to some bread, cheese and chutney*

Sally · #6 22-09-09, 21:07

I shall follow this one with great interest.

*wonders if Merry has enough bread cheese and chutney for everyone

Merry · #7 22-09-09, 21:07

*fetches plates and a few bottles of red to keep us going!*

(OC is making the chutney on General at the moment

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Olde Crone · #8 22-09-09, 21:19

Merry

Oh noooooooo.........I don't believe this...............

Charlotte McCloud was a big mystery. She went into a children's home at a very young age when her parents died - an aunt took two older children but not Charlotte.

When Charlotte was, (she thought), 55, she was contacted by the Pensions Service, who said she was 60 and here is your pension. She argued with them but eventually conceded that she must have "lost" a few years of her life when she was in the Home.

She died in 1995 at the age of 98. The birth date on her death cert is 7th December 1897...but it was her daughter who registered the death, so that information is received, not set in stone of course.

Charlotte Elizabeth "married" William Alfred Brown (born 1901) in 1933 at Marylebone Register Office...she said. I cannot find a marriage for them and I have looked as far forward as I can go on Freebmd. (WAB died in 1959, I think).

Her daughter suspects, from things which happened in her childhood, that WAB was already married but I can't begin to face looking for a WAB marriage!

Here's another odd thing about Charlotte's age. She had five children, eldest (still alive) born 1934, mmn McCloud, so that's ok. I CANNOT find the second child, a girl, born 35/36 (possibly still alive but not heard from for many years). Third child a boy, found mmn McCloid.

Fourth and fifth children were born towards the end of the war. Charlotte's two eldest daughters were evacuated for the duration and came home to a new brother and sister, brother a tiny baby, so born 1945/6...which would make Charlotte 49 if she really was born in 1897. I cannot find their registrations.

Friend's mum, a sensible sort, (so prepared for shocks, lol) thinks she may have other sibs sired by WAB, and would really like to know if her parents did ever marry - I suspect they didn't, but absence of proof is no proof at all in this game!

Phew - still with me?!

EDIT - Yes, friend's mum has her own full cert.

OC

Merry · #9 22-09-09, 21:24

And the chutney?

So, the forenames are Charlotte Elizabeth on the full cert?

Maybe she was b in Scotland - have you checked Scotlands People?

*tries not to mention Ireland*

Merry · #10 22-09-09, 21:28

Quote:

The birth date on her death cert is 7th December 1897

Erm, was it actually 6th Oct 1897 (died Truro?)