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18-04-23, 16:01
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An elusive birth
A few months ago I had a DNA match who contacted me for access to my tree. I don't give access that easily so I had a look at the tree linked to that person, there was only a few names on it and none stood out. So I messaged back to ask for some names, one surname was very familiar although not on the DNA matches tree. They only gave me a surname so I asked for a full name that was end Feb no full name forthcoming.
I decided a few days ago to take a look myself and built a quick tree from the names on the DNA match tree. I have a brick wall with a person called Hannah Wiles on the tree she gives her birthday as 3 Sep 1910 on the 1939 register, she had a son born 1936 registered in her name Wiles who was illegitimate it seems. The man John Wiles on the 1939 register could be her father but I have no idea, he could be her grandfather and she could be illegitimate too. His parents are John Wiles and Annie Rattray. This John Wiles married an Emma Jonas in 1884 and they had children up until 1905 from census and the GRO although some I can't find on GRO. I cannot find Hannah Wiles birth reg or any baptism, it could be her name is Ann, Annie or something else later on she marries in 1941 and gives a middle initial of M. 1939 register https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discovery...d=152472280550 Electoral Roll, with someone called Annie who could be John Wiles oldest sister Mary Annie who used the name Annie or could be John's second wife and Hannah's mother! https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discovery...d=152472280550 1941 marriage https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bi...50&usePUB=true John's marriage https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discovery...d=152472316156 Edit: Oldest sister not daughter Last edited by maggie_4_7; 18-04-23 at 17:26. 
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18-04-23, 16:18
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Your 1939 link doesn't work for me:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageview...14&pId=7157300 She isn't springing out on the 1921 census, but I'm supposed to be doing something else at the moment......! back later.... 1921 - No John Wiles cabinet maker either......
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"Something has been filled in that I didn't know was blank" Matthew Broderick WDYTYA? March 2010
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18-04-23, 16:29
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I can't find her on 1911 or 1921 but the 1921 I have to pay for but to be fair couldn't find her anyway.
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18-04-23, 17:18
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https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discovery...d=152472316156 1911 census https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discovery...d=152472316156 Last edited by maggie_4_7; 18-04-23 at 17:21.
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18-04-23, 17:33
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Death entry
Hannah Magdalen McGilloway, I assume I is a mistranscription. Magadalen? https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bi...50&usePUB=true
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18-04-23, 17:39
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Ok, 1921, I think this is the same people (the first two places of birth make n sense!)
73, Wilmer Gardens, Shoreditch, London & Middlesex John Wiles head 54 married b Huntingdon St, Kingsland Rd, cabinet maker Annie Wiles dau 28y 4m single b Walton Place, Kingsland Rd, packer boot trade Hannah Wiles dau 14y 3m both alive, b Wilmer Gardens, Shoreditch, school whole time
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"Something has been filled in that I didn't know was blank" Matthew Broderick WDYTYA? March 2010
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18-04-23, 18:00
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18-04-23, 18:02
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Ah Annie daughter born 1899 must be on the electoral register 1930. Last edited by maggie_4_7; 18-04-23 at 18:05.
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