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Old 22-08-16, 13:53
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Default Frederick Gilbert whereabouts 1881/1911

Hi can you help me fill in the whereabouts of Frederick Gilbert between 1881-1911?
He was born Frederick Manning to Sarah Manning in Woodbridge Suffolk 1870. He's with her on the 1871 census living in Ufford with her parents, by 1881 he is living with his mother & her new husband David Gilbert, he goes by Frederick Gilbert, that's the last i pick him up on a census.
In 1941 he marries Eva Savory in York & he is almost certainly with her in 1923 when her son Ernest Gilbert Savory is born, there is no father listed on his birth certificate & he later drops the the Savory for Gilbert.
I think i pick Frederick up once in 1905 HMP wakefield for sleeping out.

he's on the 1939 register living at 85 Crombie Avenue with Eva & several others, 5 others are closed.
I've posted this before on another site, but you guys are amazing so hoping you can help me find him.
Jackie

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Old 22-08-16, 14:51
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The link for the 1939 Register:
http://search.findmypast.co.uk/recor...00g%2f015%2f26
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Old 22-08-16, 14:53
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According to the 1939 Register, Fred's date of birth was 31st January 1869.
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Old 22-08-16, 14:56
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According to the 1939 Register, Fred's date of birth was 31st January 1869.
Odd as i found today his baptism, does not give a dob, i know it's him as on the same day she along with David have 2 of his half siblings baptised.


First name(s) Frederick
Last name Manning
Baptism year 1876
Baptism date 03 Dec 1876
Parish St Mary
Place Ufford
Father's first name(s) -
Mother's first name(s) Sarah
Residence Ufford
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County Suffolk
Country England
Source Suffolk Baptism Index (part 4)
Entry No 289
Record set Suffolk Baptism Index 1538-1911
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain
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Old 22-08-16, 15:02
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Maybe his dob was actually 31 Jan 1870 and he got it wrong.
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Old 22-08-16, 15:14
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For reference, his occupation on that 1905 Wakefield criminal record is Painter (if it is him).
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Old 22-08-16, 15:19
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Jackie, when did he die?
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Old 22-08-16, 15:22
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On his marriage cert he lists himself as a general laborer?
I wish i had a time machine for the intricacies of family realtionships!!
He's baptized Manning at the age of 7 in 1876, 4 years after David & Sarah were married, in 1881 he's morphed into a Gilbert & even lists David as his father on his marriage cert!
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Old 22-08-16, 15:23
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Jackie, when did he die?
He died in 1944.
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Old 22-08-16, 15:28
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in 1881 he's morphed into a Gilbert & even lists David as his father on his marriage cert!
I expect he believed David was his father. Do you know that he (David) definitely wasn't?
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