The Evans sisters - baptisms?

[ElizabethHerts]

I'm returning to the puzzle of OH's 5x-great-grandmother and her sisters.

Despite having the paperwork from a huge Chancery case I don't know their parents' names. I'm wondering whether, after the passage of a few years, it will now be easier to find their baptisms.

OH's 5x-great-grandmother was Susanna Evans before her marriage.
http://www.genealogistsforum.co.uk/f...=Susanna+Evans
She married William Lamb by Licence at All Hallows, Tottenham in 1751.

There are:
Ann Evans
She married William Bassett in 1776 by Licence.
http://search.findmypast.co.uk/recor...hlights=%22%22

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin...%205&ml_rpos=4

This is her will:
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/51...&usePUBJs=true

The Chancery case involves her property in Glamorgan.


Jemima Evans
She married John Kent in 1752 at St George's, Bloomsbury, London.

http://search.findmypast.co.uk/recor...f492256883%2f2

She must have been born c. 1730.

Mary Evans
She married Richard Hobbs in 1747 at St George's Chapel, Mayfair, London.
http://search.findmypast.co.uk/recor...f492249908%2f1


Susanna, Mary and Jemima all seem contemporary. As Ann Evans/Bassett didn't marry until 1776 and her husband William Bassett was very hopeful of having children with her (which didn't happen), I'm wondering whether she was the daughter of a second marriage of Mr Evans. In any case, she inherited property in Glamorgan, Wales, which was the subject of the Chancery case.

Very frustratingly, the Chancery case has not shed any light on how Ann Evans came to possess the property, nor has it mentioned her parentage.

If I could find the girls' christenings it would solve my problem!

[kiterunner]

One of the witnesses at Ann Evan's marriage to William Bassett was James Gwyn, and her will mentions that he was one of the "parties of the third part" in her marriage settlement. The PCC will of James Gwyn of Neath, proved in 1785, mentions his wife Esther and his brother-in-law Thomas Evans late of Aberlash in the County of Carmarthen Esq deceased.

So he must be the James Gwyn who married Hester Evans 23 Mar 1771 at St Martin in the Fields.

There is a Jemima Evan, daughter of Griffin Evan, baptised 11 Feb 1728 at Maenordeifi, Pembrokeshire, Wales, but it may take a while to see whether there are likely baptisms for the rest of the sisters with father Griffin. Just off to search...

[ElizabethHerts]

Wow, Kate, many thanks for that.

Off for the day - will return to this asap.

[kiterunner]

Not getting anywhere with baptisms for the others.

[ElizabethHerts]

Thanks for looking, Kate. I'll have a good look tomorrow and see what I can find on James Gwyn. Have just got in.

[kiterunner]

Is it possible to guess at the names of the sisters' parents from the names of their (the sisters') children, Elizabeth?

[ElizabethHerts]

Here are the names of the sisters' children:

William Lamb and Susanna Evans
Richard Richman (Richman was William's mother's maiden name; no Richard on the Lamb side)
William Evans (must have died)
Hannah
William Evans

John Kent and Jemima Evans
Ann
Susanna
Jemima
Sarah
Thomas
William

Richard Hobbs and Mary Evans
Mary
Hannah

I had thought perhaps Susanna was a significant name in the Evans family.
Thomas is very common, but perhaps that too.

[kiterunner]

I wonder whether Susanna's father was called William Evans, given that two of her sons had that name, or is it William after their own father and Evans after Susanna? The Jemima, daughter of Griffin, could easily be a red herring.

I'm still getting nowhere. I didn't mention before that James Gwyn's will (written 1784, proved 1785) actually says "Rice Evans surgeon, youngest son of my brother in law Thomas Evans late of Aberlash in the County of Carmarthen Esq deceased". So maybe we can find a record of Rice Evans and trace his Evans line back and see if we can find a connection with the sisters. I did have a quick look for Rice Evans the other day with no luck but will try harder this time!

[kiterunner]

Well, here's something:

UK Register of Duties Paid for Apprentices' Indentures (ancestry)
19 Aug 1776 Wm Prothero of Llandilo, Carmarthen, Surgeon & Apothecary, apprentice Rice Evans.

[kiterunner]

FMP has the burial of Thomas Evans Esqr of Aberlash, buried 6 May 1780 at Llandybie, Carmarthenshire. And a Mr Rice Evans was buried at Llandybie 13 May 1790, age 35. I've been looking at the wills on the National Library of Wales website but not managed to find anything connecting them with the sisters yet. I did find some online information about Aberlash but nothing that seems to help:
http://www.terrynorm.ic24.net/historichouses.htm