Norfolk King's Lynn Payments to Illegitimate Children

[kiterunner]

I'm looking at the "Payments to illegitimate children" records for King's Lynn in the Norfolk Poor Law records on FamilySearch, in particular these pages:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3....7401,161559501

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3....7401,161559501

I'm not very familiar with these records and getting a bit too excited about this so I would like someone else to look at them and see whether I'm barking up the wrong tree, please.

Does it say Richard Hawkes (Red Cow)? Would he be the father of the illegitimate child? At first I thought it was Dr Richard Hawkes, but it has Dr on every page so I think it is along the lines of Debit / Credit. I found a Richard Hawks marrying an Elizabeth Fuller in King's Lynn in 1815 so maybe he could be the same person.

And what does it say under Eliz Vincent at the top of the right hand page on the second of those images, please?

Also, the dates covered look to be 1830 - 1836, so would the child have been born around 1830, or could she have been born a few years before that, do you think? I'm wondering whether it is continued from a previous record as this book seems to start with 1830.

[Lindsay]

It looks like Richard Hawkes (Red Cow) to me. I wonder what the crossing out immediately below that says?

Could the word under Elizabeth on the 2nd page be 'minor'?

He paid a fair amount of money over the years, didn't he?

[kiterunner]

Originally Posted by Lindsay

It looks like Richard Hawkes (Red Cow) to me. I wonder what the crossing out immediately below that says?

Oh yes, it would be very useful to know what that crossed-out bit said. Thanks, Lindsay. I'm been following a Richard Hawkes who owned property in King's Lynn and lived in Ely - a master waterman and coal merchant. I think he is the same one who married Elizabeth Fuller in King's Lynn as his children baptised in Ely have a mother Elizabeth. But I haven't managed to find out where the Red Cow was and whether the same Richard Hawkes was connected with it yet!
Edit - I have found a book which says that Church Street was formerly Red Cow Street, but not sure whether it just means that he lived on that street. There was a pub called the Red Cow there but I found a list of the licensees and at that time it was an Ann Chapman. I guess Richard Hawkes could have been lodging there though.

[kiterunner]

I am attaching a screenshot of the word or name that I would really like some help deciphering - the word underneath "Eliz Vincent", if people would like to have a go, please.

[Just Gillian]

My best guess would be Maria.

[ElizabethHerts]

I agree with Gillian, it looks like Maria.

[kiterunner]

Ooh, thanks, that's what I was hoping it said! I can't see a baptism for an illegitimate Elizabeth Vincent, but there is one for a Maria Elizabeth Vincent (my OH's ancestor).

[Phoenix]

Another page has a pencilled Christian name - so presumably this is where the mother has more than one child?!!!

[Janet in Yorkshire]

http://www.norfolkpubs.co.uk/kingsly...lynn/klrco.htm

Unfortunately the information you could do with is missing from the database .

Jay

[kiterunner]

Thanks, Jay, but I already looked at that.