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Old 07-06-14, 09:47
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Default Frances Hawkins nee Elford

Frances was buried in Winterbourne Kingston (also known as North Kingston) Dorset 4 January 1822. Her age was given as 29.

She had married John Hawkins in Langton Long Blandford, Dorset in 1815.

They had one son, George.

I have never been able to find a baptism for Frances. Does anyone have any bright ides?

The witnesses to the marriage were John's sister Charlotte and Joseph Cumberland.
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Just to add that Joseph Cumberland is a witness on all the marriages, so we can ignore him. It doesn't say on the marriage record whether Frances was a spinster or a widow, though if her age at death is correct she would be a bit young to be a widow in 1815. Possible though.
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I've been looking for Frances for over forty years, without success.

I've heard it said that the Elfords were non-conformists, but nothing is showing.
I find it odd that the couple only had a single child, unless she were suffering some long-standing disease. Mind you, John appears to have been a shepherd, wandering all over the place.
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There is a John Hawkins baptised at Winterborne Anderson 18 Aug 1816, son of John and Frances. Abode is Anderstone, father's occupation labourer. Ancestry have indexed it as Hankins but I will put in a correction.
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And he could be the John Hawkins buried at Winterborne Kingston 6 Jan 1828 age 14, abode Winterborne Kingston.
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Ooh, thank you, Kite!

That makes perfect sense. How odd, to find a rellie, only to bury them again.

Add to say that John is with his second family in Anderson in 1841.
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There's a will for a Mark Elford in 1811 who mentions a dau Frances. He's from Fifehead Neville.
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Ooh, well spotted, Merry!

So, Mark Elford, farmer, made his will in 1805 naming his wife Jane, since deceased, two sons Mark and George and four daughters Elizabeth, Mary, Jane and Frances. Probate granted in 1811.
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The will mentions wife Jane and children Mark, George, Elizabeth, Mary, Jane and Frances. Three of them (unnamed) are under 21.

Just noticed the will was written in 1805.

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Elizabeth 1787
Mark 1790
Mary 1791
George 1797
Jane 1799

wife Jane died 1809.

No bap for Frances!!

I'm now worried she was listed after Jane as that would make her too young at her marriage.
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Mark Elford married Jenny Cathine 13 Jan 1787 at Fifehead Neville, both of the parish.

Baptisms of their children at Fifehead Neville:

Elizabeth 19 Aug 1787
Mark 24 Jan 1790
Mary 29 Apr 1791
George Noble 25 Dec 1797
Jane 24 Feb 1799

But I don't see Frances's baptism.

Edit - snap, Merry!!!
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