i missed you all so much - Genealogists' Forum

bidston · #1 28-01-12, 06:57

hi all, bidston here, i was on this forum about a year ago and found you guys so helpful and so knowledgeable, you helped me so much, for which i am eternally grateful

anyway, i hit a brick wall and could see no way of progressing so i thought i should stop wasting your time and give up for the time being

have since made contact with a cousin whom i have never met or even heard of and she is retired now and wanting to look up her family history, part of which is mine also

i have given her all i have and made the most important suggestion of joining this forum as this is undoubtedly the best available, no bull

have checked a few times and she has not joined, maybe she's a bit shy, but she is getting some results,so i thought i would post them on here and see if any of you guys can take it any further

here goes - i discovered the marriage details of our great grandparents

martin and mary walch 11 june 1861 everton, liverpool

but she has discovered a catholic church entry for st francis xavier 1861 which gives a lot of detail in latin, martins parents - john walsh, bootmaker, deceased and alice walsh, witnesses john bulger and mary maher

this has led to an entry for 1861, 29 gilbert street, liverpool
alice walsh - widow age 40
edward walsh, 20, son, bootmaker
mary ann maher, sister age 50 ( witness )
john bulger, 34 ( witness )

there is also an 1871 entry for the 2 sisters at 7 jenkinson street, liverpool

alice walsh, 50, widow, boot closer
mary ann mar , 57 servant, both born dublin

this is the first discovery of my great great grandmothers names, can anyone find a marriage or death for john walsh, i know the dublin connection means a dead end, many thanks for any help, cheers

Merry · #2 28-01-12, 07:08

Hi bidston

Do you have the details of Mary's parents as well and their ages?

Have you a census ref for Martin and Mary after their marriage?

bidston · #3 28-01-12, 07:16

sorry merry, forgot about mary, her parents were william walch - tailor, deceased and mary walch, have found mary only with two children in 1871 in whitchurch,martin was journeyman, bootmaker so he may have been at work, the whole family is there in 1881 at green end whitchurch which has the first entry for my gran sarah, cheers

Merry · #4 28-01-12, 07:28

Obviously we don't know which country John Welsh died in, but looking at England 1851-1861 there are 97 possibles in Lancashire, 8 of those are in West Derby and 29 in Liverpool districts.

Merry · #5 28-01-12, 07:31

Those places are not covered by Lancs BMD yet.

bidston · #6 28-01-12, 07:33

oh dear, one of the problems with the name is it is sometimes spelled walch, walsh, welch or welsh, not easy

Merry · #7 28-01-12, 07:34

There are 11 matches in the Liverpool Catholic burials, so I'll look at those to see what info they give.

I presume you don't have an Ancestry sub and/or don't know if the other lady has done this already?

bidston · #8 28-01-12, 07:34

west derby seems to be the area that crops up all the time

bidston · #9 28-01-12, 07:35

not sire what norma has subscribed to, thanks for looking

Merry · #10 28-01-12, 07:42

Well maybe you could ask her! lol

I've looked at those 11 and one is aged 37 in 1854 living at Midghall (?) St, Parisgh of St Anthony's Liverpool. No occ recorded. All the rest are either children or 20 years+ older than Alice, not that that discounts them entirely. The 37 year old probably only has a slim chance of being the right person too!