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Tom Tom 05-11-15 20:27

Missing in 1871 and 1911
 
Hi,
I am trying to find Mary Ann Graves on the 1871 census and the 1911 census.

She was born 1862 in Hull and registered JFM 1862 in Sculcoates.

1871 - missing

1881 - General servant. Living with Charles and Ann Clayton.
Birthplace recorded as HULL

1891 - Drapers Assistant. Living with Charles and Ann Clayton.
Birthplace recorded as Cromwell, New Zealand but think this must be an error by the enumerator.

1901 - Housekeeper. Living with Charles Clayton (Ann died 1899)
Birthplace recorded as HULL

1911 - missing


Ann Clayton's maiden name was GRAVES and she married Charles Clayton in 1869. I have found Ann at the time of the 1861 census and she is in service, which I was quite surprised about as she was from a very well off family.

Mary Graves (1847-1911) who was the sister of Ann, mentions Mary Ann Graves in her will and mentions her as her Niece.

At the moment, I am thinking the most likely scenario is that she was Ann's daughter, as I can't see any of the other siblings who she might belong to.

Mary Ann is not with Charles and Ann in 1871, but I have been unable to find Mary Snr at the time of the 1871 census. I have also been unable to find Mary and Ann's brother Philip (born Saltfleetby in 1834). Mary and Philip seem to have been very close. He never married, and she only married much later in life. They lived together in 1881, 1891 and he died at her house in 1900.

Ann, Mary and Philip had a sister called Lucy who went on to have children, but married before Mary Ann was born and their brother Epton (from whom I am descended) married in 1866. I have accounted for all his children.

Thanks for looking.

Tom Tom 05-11-15 20:32

Mary Ann never married. She died in Hull in 1932. The Executor is Lucy's daughter (her cousin).

kiterunner 05-11-15 22:06

I'm confused, Tom - who is Peter, please?

Mary from Italy 05-11-15 22:12

A bit tenuous, but there's a 6-year old Mary A Gray, born Hull, who's a nurse child with Elizabeth Lascelles in 1871.

Mary from Italy 05-11-15 22:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiterunner (Post 309568)
I'm confused, Tom - who is Peter, please?

Probably the nickname of Mary and Ann's sister Philip :d

kiterunner 05-11-15 22:17

But referred to as "he"?

kiterunner 05-11-15 22:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mary from Italy (Post 309569)
A bit tenuous, but there's a 6-year old Mary A Gray, born Hull, who's a nurse child with Elizabeth Lascelles in 1871.

FreeBMD has a Mary Adelaide Gray birth registered Jul-Sep 1864 Hull.

Tom Tom 06-11-15 05:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiterunner (Post 309568)
I'm confused, Tom - who is Peter, please?

Sorry! Meant Philip. Have edited the original post.

kiterunner 06-11-15 08:28

I've spent quite a while looking for these people but with no luck! I suppose Mary Ann's birth cert would tell you who her mother was.

Shona 06-11-15 13:44

Looking at the 1881 census when Charles and Ann Clayton were living in Hackney...

Charles Clayton, head, married, 39, linen draper, born Lincolnshire, Goxhill
Anne Clayton, wife, married, 40, born Lincolnshire, Saltfleetby
Charles Graves, nephew, 11, scholar, born Lincolnshire, Saltfleetby
Janet Holland, assistant, unmarried, 24, born Bristol
Henry William Ravenhill, apprentice, unmarried, 17, born Middlesex, St John's Wood
Mary Ann Graves, servant, unmarried, 19, general servant, born Yorkshire, Hull

How does the nephew Charles Graves fit in? Whose child is he?


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