Northern Ireland research

[ElizabethHerts]

I've never researched families from Northern Ireland before.

In 1914 Annie Bamber married in England. Her father was Thomas Bamber from Po-?, Co. Armagh. (Poor quality newspaper entry)

How would I go about researching this family?

[ElizabethHerts]

I think I've found her on the 1901 Census.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPBY-92JN

She was M.A. when she married.

[kiterunner]

Hmm, I was going to ask Catholic or Protestant as there would be different records to look at depending on which but I see they were Quakers. You will be best to start with the Irish Civil records, which are free to access, and which include Northern Ireland up to 1922:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp

[kiterunner]

Here is William Barcroft Bamber's birth registration, giving MMN as Grimason or something like that, hard to read:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1886/02607/1962903.pdf

(I haven't found Annie's birth reg yet.)

[kiterunner]

Hmm, here is the registration of an Alice Bamber, born 9 Aug 1880 Lurgan, parents Thomas Bamber and Alice nee Grimason:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1880/02866/2050098.pdf

[ElizabethHerts]

I've been making good progress, Kate.
Yes, they were Quakers, which is making research easier.
Thomas Bamber died in 1893. His wife Alice (Grimason) was a midwife.
I have found some of the births but not Annie's.

[ElizabethHerts]

Thomas and Alice married in 1862 and I have the record.

[kiterunner]

There is an 1884 birth reg for the Alice who is 16 in 1901:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1884/02673/1984859.pdf

I don't see a death reg for the first Alice, so was the wrong name registered, or they decided to change her name to Annie later?

[ElizabethHerts]

Hmm, confusing.

I reckon they made a mistake with the name.

[ElizabethHerts]

Result, I've found her on the 1939 Register in Lincolnshire with her daughter.
DOB corrected from 9 Aug 1884 to 9 Aug 1880.

[garstonite]

Geneanet has Thomas Bamber and Alice Grimmason ( double m ) as having children in Lurgan Co Armagh .. 703 Lurgan 1 - whatever that means ?? - looks a possible Dina Grimmason as Alice's sibling ??


https://en.geneanet.org/fonds/individus/?ignore_each_patronyme=&ignore_each_prenom=&type_periode=between&exact_month=&exact_day=&exact_year=&sexe=&nom=grimmason&ignore_each_patronyme=&prenom=&prenom_operateur=and&ignore_each_prenom=&place__0__=&zonegeo__0__=Armagh%2C+Northern+Ireland%2C+United+ Kingdom&country__0__=GBR&region__0__=ULS&subregion__0__=ARM&place__1__=&zonegeo__1__=&country__1__=&region__1__=&subregion__1__=&place__2__=&zonegeo__2__=&country__2__=&region__2__=&subregion__2__=&place__3__=&zonegeo__3__=&country__3__=&region__3__=&subregion__3__=&place__4__=&zonegeo__4__=&country__4__=&region__4__=&subregion__4__=&type_periode=between&from=1870&to=1890&exact_month=&exact_day=&exact_year=&go=1

[ElizabethHerts]

Thanks, Allan.

[garstonite]

Thanks, Allan.

is it possible Alice was born Dina ?? just a hunch

[garstonite]

from Lurgan Ancestry - no Alice

http://www.lurganancestry.com/births.htm

GRIMASON, Ann Rebecca
12 Apr 1865
Portadown
William GRIMASON
Mary Jane SULLIVAN

GRIMASON, Joseph
18 Mar 1868
Portadown
Zachariah GRIMASON
Elizabeth FOX

GRIMASON, Rebecca
23 Feb 1870
Portadown
William GRIMASON
Mary Jane SULLIVAN

[ElizabethHerts]

Could SKS with an Ancestry worldwide subscription please tell me what the Quaker Memorial in Ireland for William Barcroft Bamber says?

[Merry]

I would, but I can't find it.

[ElizabethHerts]

I would, but I can't find it.

It's this collection, Merry.

U.S, UK and Ireland, Quaker Published Memorials, 1818-1919

I have discovered from FMP that he died in Manchuria, China.

[Janet]

Here it is, Elizabeth. 26 is the age and 30 11 1915 is the time of decease.

U.S, UK and Ireland, Quaker Published Memorials, 1818-1919 for William Barcroft Bamber

William Barcroft Bamber 26 30 11 1915
Portadown. Son of Thomas and Alice Bamber.
Died at Tebling, Manchuria.

[ElizabethHerts]

Thanks, Janet. That's more or less what FMP had.

It looks like Annie was born Alice as her school records have " "Annie" Alice " as her name when younger but as she got older just Alice.

So there were three Alices in the family - mother, elder daughter and younger daughter!