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Langley Vale Sue
04-01-10, 09:11
I have just started helping my sister-in-law with her family history and, according to the 1891 census her Great Grandfather was born in Umbollah, East India. Does anyone know where this is or was please?

His details are:
William Charles Howell born c1888. I think I have found his death in 1915 in Ewell.
I haven't been able to find him in 1901, his wife Mary & family are still in West Street and his wife is listed as head, and married.
In 1891 he was living in West Street, Ewell, Surrey with Mary and his family.
In 1881 he was living in Carshalton with wife Mary and son Charles E (5) who was born in East Indies, Mhow?. I can't find a marriage for Mary & William, but on 1911 census Mary states she has been married for 30 years, so possibly she is not Charles' birth mother.
I haven't been able to find either William or Mary prior to 1881.

In 1891 Charles E is listed as 'inmate' at Mayford Industrial School in Woking and by 1901 he is married and living in Cheam, Surrey with his wife & children.

Anyone any ideas please?

JessBow
04-01-10, 09:13
dont know if this helps -havent read it right through

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&d=DSC18580202.2.9.3&l=mi&e=-------10--1----0-all

spelled Umballa

or Ambala
http://encyclopedia.farlex.com/Umballah

Langley Vale Sue
04-01-10, 09:23
Thanks Jess.
I'll check them out now.

Looks like William's father may have been in the Army in India. There seems to be a lot of Army references in the articles I've found under the spelling Umballah.
This is a whole new research area for me!

Merry
04-01-10, 12:53
Sue, can you check the dates in your first post - unless I'm reading it wrong I am very confused! William Charles must have been born earlier, surely?

Merry
04-01-10, 13:01
Oh, is this his death? 1915 not 1905 and aged 67?

Deaths Mar 1915
Howell William C 67 Epsom 2a 68

Langley Vale Sue
04-01-10, 19:09
Sorry Merry, his birth should be 1848 :) I've altered it now :)
You're right, his death was in 1915 and that is the reference.
Must be the cold making my fingers type the wrong dates!

Uncle John
04-01-10, 21:06
Sue, if you haven't looked at the FIBIS site it may be worth a look: http://www.fibis.org/

Langley Vale Sue
04-01-10, 22:40
Thanks UJ, I've just had a quick look on that site. It looks very interesting and I'll have a longer look tomorrow.

Thank you again for the link.

Merry
05-01-10, 05:51
I couln't see anything for these people when I looked at FIBIS yesterday, but I was loooking for the wrong forenames, so it would definitely be worth looking again!