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[HarrysMum]

A little while ago, someone, somewhere.....found what I think may be Cornelius and Catherine Londrigan's deaths in Cork.
Now, for the life of me, I cannot remember where I wrote it or where I saw it.

I could have been imagining it all.......lol

Cornelius Londrigan married Catherine Fitzgerald. I presume this was in Cork as their daughter, Hannah, was born there in 1861. All of this info is from Hannah's 1883 marriage cert in New Zealand.

I remember seeing a death/burial for Cornelius and one for Catherine, but, from memory, both times Londrigan had different spelling.

The records were from Mitchelstown, Cork, Ireland and that is all I can remember.

Any ideas?

[Merry]

I couldn't find any thread by you on this site with the word Mitchelstown in it, so thought it's easier just to look up the deaths again! I found this one:

Name: Cornelious Landrigan
Estimated birth year: abt 1809
Date of Registration: 1874
Death Age: 65
Registration district: Mitchelstown
Volume: 19
Page: 485
FHL Film Number: 101587

There's also this one, which may or may not be the same surname!

Name: Cornelius Lonergan
Estimated birth year: abt 1839
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1915
Death Age: 76
Registration district: Mitchelstown
Volume: 4
Page: 464
FHL Film Number: 0101606

I only found one Catherine and her age fits better with the second Cornelius:

Name: Catherine Londrigan
Estimated birth year: abt 1836
Date of Registration: 1866
Death Age: 30
Registration district: Mitchelstown
Volume: 19
Page: 494
FHL Film Number: 101583

[Merry]

Possible sibling for Hannah?


Michael Lonergan Baptism 11 Oct 1865 Mitchelstown, Cork Cornelius, Catherine

[Merry]

But the problem with the bap I just posted is that there's also this one:


Maurice Lonergan Baptism 24 Aug 1868 Mitchelstown, Cork Cornelius,
Catherine

some time after Catherine apparently died.

[Merry]

On the other hand, if the 1809 Cornelius was married to a Catherine and she wasn't the one who died in 1866, this could be his widow remarrying:

Marriage Civil Registrations
Name: Catherine Lonerigan
Date of Registration: 1875
Registration district: Mitchelstown, Ireland
Volume: 4
Page Number: 681
FHL Film Number: 101252

........or not!

[kiterunner]

Catherine's maiden name on Michael's and Maurice's baptisms is Mackissy.

[Merry]

Oh, I didn't realise maiden names would be included, so didn't look.

[HarrysMum]

Thank you. I've taken the Catherine (nee Fitzgerald) from Hannah's marriage cert. I suppose Cornelius could have married a second Catherine if the first one died. Hannah says she was born in 1861 so if the 1866 death is her mother, she would have been about five.
Hannah's second son was named Michael (my grandfather) and the next one was Maurice. They are not uncommon names though.

I might see if I can get those death certs. Would anyone know how I do that? I've never found a birth for Hannah.

Can I ask where you found those records?

[Merry]

Everything I posted was from ancestry.

[Merry]

Here's a link re purchasing certs:

https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/civil-records/help/i-want-to-get-a-copy-of-a-certificate-what-do-i-do

[HarrysMum]

Thanks Merry.

[kiterunner]

It is possible that the MMN on Hannah's death cert is wrong, isn't it?

[kiterunner]

Griffith's Valuation shows a Cornelius Lundrigan renting property at Knocknamuck, Brigown, from the Earl of Kingston, and sub-letting a house to a James Fitzgerald:
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/1269/32504_Cork_13-D13/1395210?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk %2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3f_phsrc%3dWHR1957%26_phstart%3dsucc essSource%26usePUBJs%3dtrue%26db%3dgriffithsvaluat ion%26so%3d2%26pcat%3dROOT_CATEGORY%26gss%3dangs-g%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26msT%3d1%26gsfn%3dco*l*%26 gsfn_x%3d1%26gsln%3dl*n*g*n*%26gsln_x%3d1%26MSAV%3 d2%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26gskw%3dcork*%26gskw_x%3d1%26cp xt%3d1%26cp%3d8%26catbucket%3drstp&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults
(this is on your thread about Cornelius but not the bit about James Fitzgerald)

Knocknamuck is close to Mitchelstown on the map.

[Merry]

Knocknamuck

That was the name of the residence place on those baps for Maurice and Michael where I didn't look at the mmn!

[JayG]

According to the link certs will be going online soon, subject to the 100-75-50-years rule ie only those births more than 100 years old, marriages more than 75 years ago, and deaths 50 years ago

http://www.irishgenealogynews.com/2016/08/onlnine-launch-irish-birth-marriage.html

[James18]

Huh, I missed that one. So Irish records are actually going online? That's amazing.

Will these records only be available from IrishGenealogy.ie? Do we know what date ranges will be available? Will it be a digital system like ScotlandsPeople, or will we have to order paper copies of everything as on the British GRO?

[kiterunner]

We have to order paper copies now, James - this new system will mean we can view them online.

[James18]

We have to order paper copies now, James - this new system will mean we can view them online.
I'm not really sure how it works, Kate, as the only Irish records I've viewed were either from IrishGeneology.ie or the GRONI. I do use a few Irish BMD records as sources on my Ancestry trees, but the only certificates I've ever ordered from the GRO have been for events that occurred in England.

This is quite exciting; I wonder what kind of information we will be able to see for free. :eek:

[HarrysMum]

It is possible that the MMN on Hannah's death cert is wrong, isn't it?

It's Hannah's marriage cert.
It is possible, but I think that was the name Hannah believed correct as I've seen a lot of Certs with no maiden name for mother when they were not in the same country. I don't have a record of Hannah arriving in NZ. I think she swam over.........like a few others. That record may possibly confirm the mmn.

[kiterunner]

One of my relatives from Kent got his mother's maiden name wrong when he got married in Scotland, Libby. He gave the surname of an uncle by marriage.

[HarrysMum]

Silly people. Don't they know we want the facts a century later.....lol

Fitzgerald is all I have to go on at the moment, but just finding any marriage for Cornelius Londrigan is hard enough.

Cork is much harder than Kerry.