Are these the same families?

[ElizabethHerts]

1861 Census
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/8767/NBLRG9_3819_3822-0488?pid=12836559&backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk%2f%2fcg i-bin%2fsse.dll%3fgss%3dangs-g%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26msT%3d1%26gsfn%3dFrancis% 26gsfn_x%3d0%26gsln%3dBell%26gsln_x%3d0%26mswpn__f tp%3dNewcastle%2bUpon%2bTyne%252c%2bNorthumberland %252c%2bEngland%26mswpn%3d86564%26mswpn_PInfo%3d8-%257c0%257c0%257c3257%257c3251%257c0%257c0%257c0%2 57c5278%257c86564%257c0%257c%26MSAV%3d1%26msbdy%3d 1811%26msbpn__ftp%3dScotland%26msbpn%3d3252%26msbp n_PInfo%3d3-%257c0%257c0%257c3257%257c3252%257c0%257c0%257c0%2 57c0%257c0%257c0%257c%26cpxt%3d1%26cp%3d4%26catbuc ket%3drstp%26uidh%3dho3%26pcat%3dROOT_CATEGORY%26h %3d12836559%26db%3duki1861%26indiv%3d1%26ml_rpos%3 d7&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true
Francis Bell with wife Mary, children Elizabeth, James, Ann, John, Alexander and Robert.

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?gss=angs-c&new=1&rank=1&msT=1&gsfn=Alexander&gsfn_x=0&gsln=Bell&gsln_x=0&msbdy=1853&msbpn__ftp=Newcastle+Upon+Tyne%2c+Northumberland%2 c+England&msbpn=86564&msbpn_PInfo=8-|0|0|3257|3251|0|0|0|5278|86564|0|&MSAV=1&uidh=ho3&pcat=1871UKI&h=10747513&db=uki1871&indiv=1&ml_rpos=2
Francis Bell with wife Mary and children Ann, Alexander and Robert.

The occupation is different and ages slightly out.

[kiterunner]

I can't find another family in 1861 to match the one in 1871, so I think they must be the same people.

[ElizabethHerts]

Thanks, Kate. I'm having problems finding them after 1871 except for Alexander Bell who is married in 1881 with wife Mary A, son John J, and daughters Mary A and Catherine.

[kiterunner]

This is the family in 1851, which should give more accurate ages:
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/8860/NBLHO107_2408_2408-0113/14857291?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.u k%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3duki1851%26gss%3dsfs28_ms_db%2 6new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26msT%3d1%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26gsf n%3dfran*%26gsfn_x%3d1%26gsln%3db%253fll%26gsln_x% 3d1%26msbpn__ftp_x%3d1%26msrpn__ftp_x%3d1%26msypn_ _ftp_x%3d1%26mssng%3dmary%26mssng_x%3d1%26gskw%3dn ewcastle%26gskw_x%3d1%26MSAV%3d2%26uidh%3dvm5&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults

62 Quality Row, All Saints, Newcastle
Francis Bell Head Mar 37 Stocking maker employs 2 men Scotland
Mary Do Wife " 40 " " Wife Do
Elizabeth " Daur 10 Scholar "
James " Son 8 Do "
Mary Ann " Daur 5 " "
Alexander " Son 3 "
John Do 1 Northumbld Newcastle
+ lodgers

There is another entry for them at 44 Quality Row where Alexander and John's entries have been merged together:
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/8860/NBLHO107_2408_2408-0105/14857160?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.u k%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3duki1851%26gss%3dsfs28_ms_db%2 6new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26msT%3d1%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26gsf n%3dfran*%26gsfn_x%3d1%26gsln%3db%253fll%26gsln_x% 3d1%26msbpn__ftp_x%3d1%26msrpn__ftp_x%3d1%26msypn_ _ftp_x%3d1%26mssng%3dmary%26mssng_x%3d1%26gskw%3dn ewcastle%26gskw_x%3d1%26MSAV%3d2%26uidh%3dvm5&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults

[kiterunner]

Possible for James in 1871 but he is a blacksmith:
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/7619/NBLRG10_5100_5104-0429/10791164?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.u k%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3duki1871%26gss%3dsfs28_ms_db%2 6new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26msT%3d1%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26gsf n%3dja*s%26gsfn_x%3d1%26gsln%3db%253fll%26gsln_x%3 d1%26msbdy%3d1843%26msbdy_x%3d1%26msbdp%3d2%26msbp n__ftp_x%3d1%26msrpn__ftp_x%3d1%26msypn__ftp_x%3d1 %26gskw%3dscotl*%26gskw_x%3d1%26MSAV%3d2%26uidh%3d vm5&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults

[kiterunner]

FamilySearch has John Bell, son of Francis, marrying Hannah Lowes, daughter of Edward Lowes, 1885, All Saints, Newcastle upon Tyne, but his age is given as 30. I'll see if I can find them in 1891...

Edit - too many possibles!

[kiterunner]

There is a Francis Bell death registered Jul-Sep 1872 Newcastle on Tyne, age 58.

[kiterunner]

And there are a few possible deaths for Mary sr in Newcastle between 1871 and 1881.

[ElizabethHerts]

Thanks, Kate. I posted a reply but it hasn't appeared. I'm not at home now but will return to this as soon as I can.

[ElizabethHerts]

I've just been recording the information from the marriage certificate of Catherine Bell, daughter of Alexander Bell (deceased) to John Dron Bruce. The two witnesses are George Sinton and Mary Ann Sinton. At first I thought this was Catherine's sister, but in fact it turns out to be her mother Mary Ann Bell remarrying.

She married Frederick George T Sinton in 1895. They appear on the 1911 census together with Alexander's sister, also Mary Ann, and Catherine Bruce's daughter Mary Ann:
http://search.ancestry.co.uk//cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&db=1911England&h=36825986&tid=&pid=&usePUB=true&rhSource=7814


Marriages Sep 1895
Bell Mary
Newcastle T.
10b 55
Sinton Frederick George T
Newcastle T.
10b 55