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Kit
20-07-15, 04:29
I'm searching for a marriage and have 2 results on Scotlands People.

They are a couple of days apart, different places. Is one of them a right one?


1 19/03/1777 CRAWFORD JOHN JEAN TUCKER/FR1848 (FR1848) M PORT GLASGOW /RENFREW 574/00 0060 0297

2 22/03/1777 CRAWFORD JOHN JEAN TUCKER FR806 (FR806) M GREENOCK NEW OR MIDDLE /RENFREW 564/01 0040 0119


PS: from searching on FMP and reading the transcriptions I'm pretty sure (poor memory, late night) both fathers for Jean are Joseph so the same marriage in 2 places, I think.
Kit
20-07-15, 04:43
Also if this link works can someone please tell me the mother of James Crawford, wife of John? (second baptism)

James Crawford (http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/viewers/DownloadImageFile.ashx/105/99D1DDA5-8F2F-4315-92C9-0915A9F6F874-OPR574_000_0030_0368Z%20JPG)
maggie_4_7
20-07-15, 06:27
Toni

The link doesn't work.
Shona
20-07-15, 07:16
It's likely to be the same couple, Toni, as it wasn't unusual for a marraige to be recorded in both the bride's parish and the groom's parish if they were from different places. Also, Port Glasgow and Greenock are fairly close - about 10 miles apart.

Have you checked baptisms? If there are baptisms in both Port Glasgow and Greenock at about the same time, then you have two couples with the same name marrying at about the same time. In which case, look at naming patterns for children and grandchildren to see which couple is the best fit.

My money is on both records being the same couple.
Kit
20-07-15, 07:50
Toni

The link doesn't work.

Thanks. I'll crop it in photobucket and load it after dinner.

It's likely to be the same couple, Toni, as it wasn't unusual for a marraige to be recorded in both the bride's parish and the groom's parish if they were from different places. Also, Port Glasgow and Greenock are fairly close - about 10 miles apart.

Have you checked baptisms? If there are baptisms in both Port Glasgow and Greenock at about the same time, then you have two couples with the same name marrying at about the same time. In which case, look at naming patterns for children and grandchildren to see which couple is the best fit.

My money is on both records being the same couple.

I've only checked the baptisms in Port Glasgow I know some of the children from the book I found on google. My James does not have a mother recorded and so do a couple more, but the mother is on the record, just incredibly hard, or impossible to read. I haven't checked Greenock. I'll see if FMP will distinguish so I don't have to pay for it.

I wish Scotland's People would have a sub not credits.
Kit
20-07-15, 08:58
Hopefully this will work.

James Crawford 2 (http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x61/KitTheKat1/843efbfc-9af4-427d-8400-092c0d380f96_zpsdcwdil4k.jpg)
JBee
20-07-15, 09:04
Have you looked at the death certificate after 1855 - as they usually record the parents names including maiden name too.

This is very useful for those born before 1855.
JBee
20-07-15, 09:07
Have you looked at Family search?

If you look at the IGI - it doesn't give you the image but really helps when narrowing events down before going to Scotlandspeople.
kiterunner
20-07-15, 09:45
Your second link doesn't work for me, Toni.
kiterunner
20-07-15, 09:48
Managed to figure out how to get the URL from your link. This one should work:

http://s183.photobucket.com/user/KitTheKat1/media/843efbfc-9af4-427d-8400-092c0d380f96_zpsdcwdil4k.jpg.html

Now, what was the question again?!
Kit
20-07-15, 09:48
Are you referring to a particular death certificate Julie?

James died before 1836 as he was deceased when his daughter married.

Kate that is a photobucket link. What have I done wrong?
Kit
20-07-15, 09:49
Managed to figure out how to get the URL from your link. This one should work:

http://s183.photobucket.com/user/KitTheKat1/media/843efbfc-9af4-427d-8400-092c0d380f96_zpsdcwdil4k.jpg.html

Now, what was the question again?!

Thank you.

Can you read the mother's first name?
kiterunner
20-07-15, 09:49
Hmm, I think it might say "Mrs Crawford his spouse" which doesn't really help. It does say that John was John Crawford Junior.
Kit
20-07-15, 10:01
I did notice the John Jr. :)

I'm not liking the Mrs Crawford though. I was really hoping it was J--- but I think you are right. I'm going to have to buy some more to make sure.
Shona
20-07-15, 10:47
Looks like Mrg to me - Margaret? Poss Mary. looking at Kate's suggestion of Mrs, are there any other entries on the page using Mrs? I don't recall coming across Mrs in the Scottish parish registers I've looked at.

Toni, is your other thread also about the Crawford family?
Kit
20-07-15, 10:53
Hi Shona, yes the other thread is about the Crawford's too.

I'll just check the other page for you.

Sorry just been distracted by something else. I just found a photo of my 3g grandparents grave!!!! (not Crawfords)
Kit
20-07-15, 10:57
All other entries have names for the wives. There is a Mary and Margt but neither of them look like what was written for the Crawford's.
Kit
20-07-15, 11:57
It was definitely Mrs. Child Andrew's mother is also Mrs. :(
Shona
20-07-15, 13:19
It was definitely Mrs. Child Andrew's mother is also Mrs. :(

Looking at the record for James, it does look like Mrs. I can see a dash under the superscript 'rs'.
Kit
21-07-15, 02:04
Once Kate said Mrs I knew it was right.

I'm going to have to check all the records without a mother to make sure they look like they will fit into the family. One though will only let me buy the cert so he will remain unclaimed unless I can find him elsewhere. He's not on FMPs transcriptions.