John Eugene McCarter Casey where are you ?

[Gert in Oz]

John Eugene McCarter Casey age 28 married Beatrice Kathleen Tomlinson on 24 June 1916 at the register office Fulham, he`s a Armourer R.N.A.S. Marine engineer, his father was Robert Casey (deceased) Captain (Royal Navy).

Witnesses were Edith Annie Birthistle ( Beatrice`s sister) and Nellie Ethel Prodger ,I have no idea who this is.

I can`t find John anywhere before his marriage or a birth, he died 1940 Brentford Middlesex age 52.

Can anyone find anything on him before 1916 please.

[Shona]

His navy records are at the National Archives:

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=D6803264

John Eugene McCarten Casey, born 18 December 1888, Co Antrim, Ireland.

[kiterunner]

Nellie Ethel Prodger died Jul-Sep 1967 Ealing age 76. She is on the 1921 e roll with a Frederick William Prodger, so she must be Nellie E Bolton who married Frederick W Prodger Jul-Sep 1911 Fulham. Not sure that is any help!

[kiterunner]

I wonder whether this is John on the 1911 Irish census?

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001323711/

[Shona]

That 1911 record sort of ties in with this 1901 record, in that there is a John and a Robert, both b in Antrim and a four year-age difference.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003983688/

1901 Castle Street, Ballymoney

Susan Casey, 45, widow, RC, b Co Antrim
Susan Casey, 16, dau, gen servant, ditto
Maggie Leary, 14, dau, scholar, ditto
John Casey, 12, son, scholar, ditto
Ellen Casey, 10, dau, scholar, ditto
Robert Casey, 8, scholar, ditto
James Casey, 24, nephew, plasterer, ditto

[Gert in Oz]

Thank you Shona and Kate, I had a feeling he may have been Irish.

Its taken me a few years to find what happened to Beatrice Tomlinson, I was told she went to Canada, but nobody seemed to know where or when. A few weeks ago, I found an obituary on an Ancestry tree for a Beatrice Kitty (Tomlinson) Casey Marshall (1894 - 1962), her middle name should have been Mary, but the clincher was the names of the 3 sisters who survived her, so I sent for both of her marriages, just to make sure.

Beatrice was my 1st cousin once removed.

Now to buy those records, maybe it will tell me why he`s not on any census, unless he was in Ireland.

[Gert in Oz]

Sorry slow to type, I see you may have found him

[Shona]

Hmm - there is this 1911 record as well. This seems to fit better with the 1901 record that I found rather than the one Kate found.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003983688/

1911

Castle Street, Ballymoney

John Connor, head, RC, 34, butcher, b Antrim
Susan Connor, wife, RC, 25, b Antrim
Patrick Connor, son, RC, 8, b Antrim
Kathleen Connor, dau, RC, 6, b Antrim
Mary Connor, dau, RC, 5, b Antrim
John Connor, son, RC, 4, b Antrim
John Casey, brother-in-law, 22, tailor, b Antrim
Margt Casey, sister-in-law, 24, b Antrim

[kiterunner]

The John on the 1911 census entry that I found (post #4) is an Electrical Engineer which is closer to occupation on the marriage cert. But may well not be him.

[Shona]

The National Archives have records of RN officers (inc captains) from 1756-1931. I can't find a Robert Casey.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/royal-naval-officers-service-records.htm

[Gert in Oz]

Can someone tell me what the A stands for in R N A S =Royal Navy ?? Service, He seems to have spent time in France and Flanders. In the remarks column it says for service in land operations

[kiterunner]

Royal Naval Air Service.

[Gert in Oz]

His occupation on these papers say Fitter

[Gert in Oz]

Thank you Kate.

[Martind]

As you now know John Eugene Mccartan Casey was born in 1886 to Mary Elizabeth Casey (nee Meenan) and Francis Casey a Shipsmarster (sailing ship, never in the Royal Navy). At the time of his birth the Meenan’s were living at Silver Farm, Antrim.

John had 2 brothers Patrick Joseph Casey (b 1884 at Spring Farm) and Robert Francis Casey (b 1896 at Greenock) and a sister Mary Margaret Ellen Casey (b 1897 at Spring Farm). Their mother Mary Elizabeth Casey dies 2 months after the birth of Mary Ellen. Because Robert Casey is a shipmaster, working out of Greenock in Scotland, all the children have to be looked after by the maternal grandparents the Meenan’s at Ballycraigy Manor. Muckamore, Antrim.

The 1939 census shows that John is a “Disabled war pensioner. As you know he dies in 1940. I do not think that he has any children with Beatrice

We know nothing further about Patrick Joseph. Mary Margaret Ellen does not marry and remains in Muckamore until she passes away in 1966.

Robert Francis does marry after service with both the army and Royal Flying Corps in WW1. He has 3 Children with Dorothy Annie Hyde. However he leave the family, without getting devoiced in about 1931.

He rejoins the Army in 1939 but after a short period of service in Iraq, he returns to London and listed as retired. He lives with a Violet (Hardy) Casey (never married). He dies in 1966 in Southampton, where he had worked as a sales person in office stationer, before retiring.

If you think that any of this is wrong, please let me know.