Traton Bennett??

[Heather P T]

Hi guys, help if possible please on this one. Doing it for a friend but basically her grandparents the Flaxmans are of interest. Cant find the grandad in 1911 William Jonathan Flaxman but on further discussion it was mentioned by friends auntie that he was once found running down Kensington High Street naked and proclaiming some sort of religious statements - so it may be is in an asylum in 1911. (Have found him earlier back to his great grandad in Nofolk so far ...) But anyways, following the granny:

In 1911 - friends granny - Maud Mary Matilda Flaxman (nee Collins) is living in Islington area with her young son Edward and a couple called Susan and William Cordy. Relationship to head is given as "step grandaughter".

The other Flaxman child, Doris born 1906 (friends deceased mum) is with the Collins grandparents.

Trying to work out how the Cordys are related. Ive found their marriage in 1883 with Susan shown as Susanna Bennett widow, father George Usher, engineer. Going back Ive found a Susanna Usher (father George engineer) marrying a Traton Bennett - "horse? soldier" in St Brides, London in 1858.
both shown as full age.

Now, Im blowed if I can find Traton (Traiton) Bennett before 1858 or after come to that and I am trying to get my head round how William Cordy is Maud (Flaxman) Collins' step grandad?

Help please?

NB Hang on, just found a Traton Bennett in the electoral registers for London but its after the wife remarries. So is it the same bloke do we think?

ame: Traton Bennett
Year: 1896
County or Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Ward or Division/Constituency: Kensington North
Street Address: 184 Cornwall road

[Phoenix]

Not sure it helps, but Traton, Trayton etc is a Sussex forename.

[Shona]

Here he is with his mother in 1851, living in Kemp Town, Brighton

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&db=uki1851&rank=1&new=1&MSAV=1&msT=1&gss=angs-d&gsfn=Traton&gsfn_x=NN&gsln_x=NN&cpxt=1&catBucket=rstp&uidh=fpy&cp=11&pcat=35&fh=1&h=1795830&recoff=5&ml_rpos=2

Rebecca Bennett, head, 62, widow, washer woman, b Lillington, Sussex
Traton Bennett, son, 18, unmarried, farm labourer, b Farington, Sussex

[Heather P T]

Oh thanks!

Im wondering if thats him in the electoral roll in Kensington after the wife has remarried. But why doesnt he come up in the census.

[Shona]

There is a death for a Traton Bennett, JFM quarter of 1907 in Kensington in London. Est birth year is 1835.

A big of bigamy going?

[kiterunner]

There are a few Collinses on the same page of the 1901 census as the Cordys, Heather, do you know whether any of them is related to Maud?
1901 ancestry (http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/7814/LNDRG13_153_154-0355/2198659?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk %2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3frank%3d0%26gsfn%3dsus*%26gsln%3dco rdy%26sx%3d%26f1%3d%26f2%3d%26f4%3d%26f18%3d%26f12 __n%3d%26rg_81004011__date%3d%26rs_81004011__date% 3d0%26f27%3d%26f14%3d%26f15%3d%26_8000C002%3d%26_8 0008002%3d%26_80018002%3d%26f7%3d%26f8%3d%26f9%3d% 26gskw%3d%26prox%3d1%26db%3duki1901%26ti%3d5538%26 ti.si%3d0%26gl%3d%26gss%3drfs%26gst%3d%26so%3d3&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults)

[Heather P T]

I think me or my puter is going loopy, Ive had another search and found the death mentioned above and also another wife? AND a Trayton Bennett near Brighton in 1841 but with different first name for what appears to be mum? May be its gran.

Name: Traton Bennett
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Age: 52
Spouse Name: Mary Ann Ridgway
Spouse Age: 36
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 3 Oct 1885
Parish: Kensington St James Norlands
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Father Name: John Bennett
Spouse Father Name: Benjamin Ridgway
Register Type: Parish Register

[Shona]

Find My Past have service records for Traton Bennett.

Born 1833, Fowlington, Eastbourne, Sussex
Private, Second Reg of Lifeguards

[Heather P T]

Hi Kite, many thanks - I dont know but I will certainly print it off and show it to Mary as she said she and her sis had got all the Collins info and it was the Flaxmans that had flummoxed them.

It would be nice to work out this weird relationship though :)

Oh thanks Shona, that may be very helpful. Im guessing may be they are both out of the country in 61. 71 and 81.

[kiterunner]

There are two Trayton Bennetts with only a few years' difference in age on the 1841 census, one transcribed as Trazton by ancestry. The one transcribed as Trazton is age 7 with John and Rebacka.

[Jill]

Trayton Bennett son of John & Rebecca Bennett was bapt St Peter Folkington 26 Jul 1834. (Sussex Family history group database)

[kiterunner]

There is a William Cordy in London on the 1881 census with a wife Sarah. Not sure if it is the same William Cordy but if it is, I wonder whether the step-granddaughter relationship could be to do with Sarah rather than Susan?
1881 ancestry (http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&db=uki1881%2c&rank=0&=%2c%2c%2c%2c%2c%2c%2c%2c%2c%2c%2c%2c%2c%2c%2c%2c% 2c%2c%2c&gsfn=wil*&gsln=cordy&sx=&gs1co=1%2cAll+Countries&gs1pl=1%2c+&year=&yearend=&sbo=0&sbor=&ufr=0&wp=4%3b_80000002%3b_80000003&srchb=r&prox=1&ti=5538&ti.si=0&gss=angs-d&pcat=35&fh=9&h=14674297&recoff=&ml_rpos=10)

[Heather P T]

Ah, thanks :)

[Shona]

Traton Bennett enlisted on 28 October 1851 and served 11 years 137 days before being discharged through ill health (TB). The records note that his conduct was good and that he had a ruddy complexion, grey eyes and brown hair. Can't see anything on the records about where he served or details of a marriage. The discharge place was Regent's Park Barracks.

[Shona]

1861 Army List on Find my past has a Trooper Traton Bennett of the Second Life Guards based at Hyde Park and Windsor.

[Heather P T]

Oh bless, thanks so much shona.

Im trying to think - if William Cordy is the step grandad of Maud Collins then she is descended from his wife Susan(nna) Usher aka Bennett. So ....if Mary knows about the Collins lot, Im guessing that Susan cordy/bennett/usher must have had kids with Trayton.

Oh I think I shall have to have a lie down or a chocolate biscuit.

Thanks everyone for you very kind help.

[Shona]

Oh bless, thanks so much shona.

Im trying to think - if William Cordy is the step grandad of Maud Collins then she is descended from his wife Susan(nna) Usher aka Bennett. So ....if Mary knows about the Collins lot, Im guessing that Susan cordy/bennett/usher must have had kids with Trayton.

Oh I think I shall have to have a lie down or a chocolate biscuit.

Thanks everyone for you very kind help.

On FMP, I found Trayton Bennett on the 1901 census. He was 68, a general labourer, born Sussex, married to Catherine, age 55, who was born in Alfriston. Also a step-son named Benjamin R Bennett, 11, born Marylebone, London.

The address is 184 Cornwall Road. This is the same address for the Trayton Bennett who appears on the electoral roles from 1896-1901.

[Shona]

On Ancestry, there is a baptism at Christ Church, St Pancras, London, for Julia Bennett on 7 September 1862, daughter of Traton and Susan Bennett, 27 Little Edward Street. Father's occ - soldier, Second Life Guards.

[kiterunner]

On the 1891 census, Maud M M Collins age 6 born Regent's Park is the daughter of William Collins age 33 born Dorset Weymouth and Julia 31 born Windsor Berks.

There is a possible marriage on FreeBMD between William Frederic Collins and Julia Bennett Jul-Sep 1884 Marylebone.

[kiterunner]

Yes, the marriage is on ancestry and it is the same Julia Bennett as her father is Traton Bennett, deceased, and the witnesses are William Cordy and Susan Cordy:
marriage on ancestry (http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/1623/31280_198887-00297/7717755?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk %2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3frank%3d0%26f8%3djulia%26f10%3dben* t%26sx%3d%26rg_81004011__date%3d%26rs_81004011__da te%3d0%26rg_f51__date%3d1884%26rs_f51__date%3d0%26 f99%3d%26f53%3d%26f23%3d%26f24%3d%26f18%3d%26f19%3 d%26f28%3d%26f29%3d%26gskw%3d%26prox%3d1%26db%3dlm amarriages%26ti%3d5538%26ti.si%3d0%26gl%3d%26gss%3 drfs%26gst%3d%26so%3d3&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults)

[Shona]

yes, the marriage is on ancestry and it is the same julia bennett as her father is traton bennett, deceased, and the witnesses are william cordy and susan cordy:
marriage on ancestry (http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/1623/31280_198887-00297/7717755?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk %2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3frank%3d0%26f8%3djulia%26f10%3dben* t%26sx%3d%26rg_81004011__date%3d%26rs_81004011__da te%3d0%26rg_f51__date%3d1884%26rs_f51__date%3d0%26 f99%3d%26f53%3d%26f23%3d%26f24%3d%26f18%3d%26f19%3 d%26f28%3d%26f29%3d%26gskw%3d%26prox%3d1%26db%3dlm amarriages%26ti%3d5538%26ti.si%3d0%26gl%3d%26gss%3 drfs%26gst%3d%26so%3d3&ssrc=&backlabel=returnsearchresults)

bingo!!!

[Shona]

1891 census - 14 All Saints Road, Kensington

Tratan Bennett, 48, head, gen labourer, b Ireton Manor
Mary A Bennett, 42, wife, b Buckingham
Ridgway Bennett, 1, son, b London

http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/6598/LNDRG12_25_27-0322/8985121?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk %2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3findiv%3d1%26db%3duki1891%26rank%3d 1%26new%3d1%26MSAV%3d1%26msT%3d1%26gss%3dangs-d%26gsfn%3dtra*%26gsfn_x%3dNN%26gsln%3dbennet%26gs ln_x%3dNN%26cpxt%3d1%26catBucket%3drstp%26uidh%3df py%26cp%3d11%26pcat%3d35%26fh%3d0%26h%3d8985121%26 recoff%3d%26ml_rpos%3d1&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnRecord

[Heather P T]

Oh arent you all wonderful. Thanks so much. I have got it now, Trayton Bennett and Susan(na) Usher had daughter Julia who then married William Collins and Maud is there daughter. Lovely, wonderful, thanks everyone. Very much appreciated xxx

[Heather P T]

Sorry to be a pain everyone. But going back to this Traton Bennett chap - the info kindly supplied by Shona, says he was discharged in 1863 from the army with TB - can anyone see him on a census or dying between 1863-1883 please? As Im a bit confused whether the Traton dying in 1907 Kensington is him, or is the other Sussex boy.