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Phoenix
31-01-13, 23:36
Elizabeth Cooper married Samuel Baggerley, a shoemaker of Ailsworth, Northants in 1794.

I have found the marriages of three daughters: Elizabeth to John Rowlatt, Susanna to Joseph Popple and Mary Ann in Lewisham Kent to John Hughes.

One of Ann's brothers died in 1844 and his will mentions her SONS and daughters. This implies that there were boys around in the 1840s at least.

Henry Bigerly: http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?htx=view&r=5538&dbid=8978&iid=NTHHO107_815_818-0163&fn=Rebbecca&ln=Bigesby&st=d&ssrc=&pid=8876154 is next door but one to Susanna Popple in 1841. Can anyone see any other likely candidates? I can't find any helpful online baptisms.

tenterfieldjulie
01-02-13, 01:16
Ann's brothers would be Cooper wouldn't they?

Merry
01-02-13, 05:56
Susanna and Elizabeth say they were b at Ailsworth and Henry says he was b at Oundle and is apparently 64 in 1851 (so older than the marriage of Elizabeth and Samuel). I wasn't sure about Mary Ann Hughes' birthplace).

Henry could be a different relation than brother to the girls - could the wording of the will be legalese for "all the children of"?

Merry
01-02-13, 06:17
Looks like you need the PRs for Castor and Sutton but they are not yet on FreeREG.

Phoenix
01-02-13, 07:19
There's an excellent website where I found the marriage of at least one of the girls. A friend wants to visit Northants RO and I begin to think I need to go too.
Samuel seems to stay put and I can't find any Baggerly/Bigerly etc giving Ailsworth/Casto/Sutton as birthplaces. Mary Ann died even before the censuses and had it not been for her unusual surname I should never have recognised her marriage in Kent.

This wonderful census entry: http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1851&h=4643191&ti=5538&indiv=try&gss=pt&ssrc=pt_t46912381_p6643137633_kpidz0q3d6643137633z 0q26pgz0q3d32768z0q26pgplz0q3dpid

shows Mary Ann's daughter with two of Elizabeth Baggerley's sisters all staying with Susanna Benton (nee Cooper)'s daughter. As all four women are married, I never recognised the significance of the visitors when first I saw the record.

kiterunner
01-02-13, 07:38
Sorry, I don't understand this thread - is Ann the same person as Elizabeth?

JessBow
01-02-13, 07:54
I guess you hve already poked around in Camus project?



Baptisms, Burials / Cremations, Marriages, Parish Records, War Memorials & Other Memorials



Title:

Archives from Castor, Ailsworth, Marholm, Upton and Sutton



Link:

http://www.thearchive.org.uk/



Description:

Archives from Castor, Ailsworth, Marholm, Upton and Sutton - and the Milton Estates

kiterunner
01-02-13, 08:11
Now I've had my second cup of coffee I understand! I agree with Merry that "sons and daughters" could just be legalese and not actually mean that there were any sons.

Phoenix
01-02-13, 17:07
I guess you hve already poked around in Camus project?



Baptisms, Burials / Cremations, Marriages, Parish Records, War Memorials & Other Memorials



Title:

Archives from Castor, Ailsworth, Marholm, Upton and Sutton



Link:

http://www.thearchive.org.uk/



Description:

Archives from Castor, Ailsworth, Marholm, Upton and Sutton - and the Milton Estates

Yes, Jess, and I'm very grateful for the work they've done so far.

Phoenix
01-02-13, 17:17
Kite, I keep on muddling Ann and Elizabeth in my mind. In fact, I thought that the Mary Ann Lines in that 1851 census entry was Mrs Llewellyn's granddaughter, rather than Mrs Baggerley's.

I have John Cooper's will, where he lists his numerous extended family. Unfortunately, I cannot lay hands upon it just at the moment. But Elizabeth would have been past childbearing age when he made it. The trouble is, some of them hopped across the pond, so there may be American Baggerleys lurking somewhere. (Though they would doubtless rationalise the spelling.)

Janet
01-02-13, 21:09
53 hits for Baggerley in the U.S. on the current phone directory, mostly in the south: Virginia, Georgia, Louisiana, Texas.
Baggerley (http://www.whitepages.com/name/Baggerley/)

Phoenix
05-09-17, 17:07
Just updating this thread.
Samuel Baggerley died c 1829 - death duty records
He and Elizabeth had three sons:
Samuel - died as a baby
Richard - died c 1837 - death duty records
James - still alive in 1834 when his sister Mary Ann Hughes made her will

Phoenix
05-09-17, 17:15
Right.
James dies in January 1851.
Here he is in 1841:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/8978/NTHHO107_815_818-0252?pid=8877576&backurl=http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?_phsrc%3DhQY5393%26_phstart%3DsuccessSourc e%26usePUBJs%3Dtrue%26gss%3Dangs-c%26new%3D1%26rank%3D1%26msT%3D1%26MS_AdvCB%3D1%26 gsfn%3Djames%26gsfn_x%3D1%26msbdy%3D1809%26msbdy_x %3D1%26msbdp%3D10%26msrpn__ftp%3DEye,%2520Northamp tonshire,%2520England%26msrpn%3D86306%26msrpn_PInf o%3D8-%257C0%257C0%257C3257%257C3251%257C0%257C0%257C0%2 57C5277%257C86306%257C0%257C0%257C%26msrpn_x%3D1%2 6msrpn__ftp_x%3D1%26cpxt%3D1%26cp%3D4%26MSAV%3D2%2 6uidh%3D9vh%26pcat%3DCEN_1840%26h%3D8877576%26reco ff%3D6%26dbid%3D8978%26indiv%3D1%26ml_rpos%3D2&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=hQY5393&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true

HarrysMum
05-09-17, 21:18
I've got Baguley and Bagguley in my tree. I haven't gone back that far with them as they are a twig, but they say it as "Baggerly"

Phoenix
06-09-17, 09:16
Hello cousin!

It's one of those delightful names that can be spelled in dozens of ways. I haven't investigated its origins, but it seems spread across eastern and midland counties. I don't know if it has a single root or - like the Coopers and Llewellins - multiple ones.

Kit
11-09-17, 03:41
I have Baggerley's in OHs tree - try Baggeley, Baggerly, Baggelly - all combinations with and without the r, the e , double l. It is a nightmare.

OHs were very distant and I gave up.