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Phoenix
21-10-09, 18:18
Is annoying me, lol!

He is born Sept 1847, Eton RD

In 1861 he is in Middlesex, no parents mentioned in the index, aged 13

In 1881, he is living by himself at 38 Great Russell St, Bloomsbury "dealer in antiquities, aged 34, born Slough, transcribed as William Cutler

In June 1888,William Doherty Cutter or Cutler marries Lucy Markham

In 1901, William Cutter aged 53, born Slough, is in Bloomsbury with Lucy 43, born Norfolk, Marjorie 5 & Christiana D[OHERTY] aged 8

Christiana marries in Paddington in 1918

William D Cutter dies in Paddington June 1929

So where the flip is he in 1851, 1871, 1891 & 1911?

Merry
21-10-09, 19:01
This is their child as there is a bap for her on the LMA records:

Births Jun 1889
Cutter Lucy Doherty St Giles 1b 618


Deaths Mar 1893
Cutter Lucy Dorothy 4 St.Giles 1b 437 (mistranscription of middle name)

but this isn't helping me find them in 1891!

Merry
21-10-09, 19:10
1851:

2 Easy Row, St Paul's Birmingham Warks

William George Cutter head m 44 Picture Dealer b St James, London
Jane Cutter wife m 27 b City of Cork, Cork
Jessie Cutter dau unm 18 b Reading, Berks
Alice Cutter dau 11 b Slough, Berks
Anne Cutter dau 5 b Slough Berks
William Cutter son 3yrs ½ (transcribed as 38 yrs 6mths!) b Slough, Berks
Mary Elizabeth Cutter dau 2yrs b Slough, Berks
Charles Cutter 7mths b Cheltenham, Gloucestershire
Margaret Meany (?) unm 23 House Servant b Macroom (???) Cork

Phoenix
21-10-09, 19:14
It looks as if this is William's baptism and his sister's:
Upton Cum Chalvey, Bucks:
WILLIAM CUTTER
03 OCT 1847
ANNE CUTTER -
21 JUN 1846
both children of William George Cutter & Jane. But that doesn't help me find them in 1851!

Though he has another sister Mary Elizabeth, who marries John Owens & she is in Lewisham in 1881.

Phoenix
21-10-09, 19:17
Brilliant, Merry!

And if she is from Cork, I wonder what the odds are that her maiden name was Doherty?:)

Merry
21-10-09, 19:23
Erm, William doesn't seem to be with his wife and daughters in 1901. There is a space where his name might be expected, but that line is for the nextdoor property and whilst there has been something written in and then rubbed out, I don't think it ever said William Cutter.


EDIT - I lied!! He is there, but after the rest of his family!!! lol

Phoenix
21-10-09, 19:27
So where does the 1901 get the William D Cutter, born Slough? It looks like at least the same page as the rest of the family. (cribbing the ref at the bottom of the page!)

Merry
21-10-09, 19:28
Brilliant, Merry!

And if she is from Cork, I wonder what the odds are that her maiden name was Doherty?:)

Highly likely. I can't see they were married, but maybe his previous wife was still about?!

Merry
21-10-09, 19:28
So where does the 1901 get the William D Cutter, born Slough? It looks like at least the same page as the rest of the family. (cribbing the ref at the bottom of the page!)

See my edit!

Phoenix
21-10-09, 19:49
Cheers!
I've now found William George in 1881 as a widower.

Jane died in 1880.

Her daughter Jane was born Upper Norwood, prob 1860. That ought to give me a fix in Croydon area in 1861. Do you think I can find them?!!

Merry
21-10-09, 19:57
It would seem William George C's first wife was called Jessie:

JESSIE CUTTER
Event(s):
Birth: 10 SEP 1833

Christening: 27 MAR 1851 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick, England
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Parents:
Father: WILLIAM CUTTER
Mother: JESSIE
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Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.

Phoenix
21-10-09, 19:59
1871 for the parents!

William G,Jane
Anne Cutter 1846 Bucks
Mary E Cutter 1849 Bucks
Edith Cutter 1852
Eva A Cutter 1855 Middlesex,
Jane 1861 Surrey,

Merry
21-10-09, 20:01
Another.....

FANNY CUTTER

Event(s):
Birth: 25 MAY 1832

Christening: 21 MAY 1840 Saint Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
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Parents:
Father: WILLIAM GEORGE CUTTER
Mother: JESSIE
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Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record.

Phoenix
21-10-09, 20:12
Now why didn't I think of looking for the family in Liverpool, lol!

Merry
21-10-09, 20:35
I can't find them in 1841 at all.

No luck with 1911 either, which seems more surprising.

Phoenix
21-10-09, 20:50
Ooh, how dare they:

Eva Amaranthie Cutter bp 01 OCT 1854 , Surrey, England

I can get a batch number, but it doesn't give any clue to the source!

Phoenix
21-10-09, 21:02
Thank you so much for your help this evening, Merry!

I reckon they were in Ireland in 1841 and William junior was possibly collecting his antiquites in 1871!

Perhaps they were having a continental holiday in 1911!

Merry
21-10-09, 21:40
Ooh, how dare they:

Eva Amaranthie Cutter bp 01 OCT 1854 , Surrey, England

I can get a batch number, but it doesn't give any clue to the source!

On the 1871 census it says she was born at All Souls London Middlesex and in 1901 Marylebone.

kiterunner
21-10-09, 21:55
Her birth was registered in Marylebone district.

kiterunner
21-10-09, 22:04
But, checking a few others listed as baptised 1854 in the same batch, their births are registered in Croydon district, so maybe Eva was baptised in Croydon although she was born in Marylebone?