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Old 04-04-10, 17:44
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yes he was married at st nicholas church 1851 there is one n taynton were the holders are from and there all located in and around taynton.there all in gloucestershire ....it was the address but there were no census before then was there ?brenda xxx
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Old 04-04-10, 17:46
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ah going to look on the mariage cert now brenda xxx
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Old 04-04-10, 17:47
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Well, the 1851 and 1841 censuses were before his marriage!

I was wondering why you only 'believe' his father was Edward Holder if you have the marriage cert. What did it say about Edward?
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not good to read brenda xxx


his father was edward its his mum i dont know brenda xxx
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Old 04-04-10, 18:02
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EDWARD HOLDER Pedigree
Male Family


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Event(s):
Birth:

Marriages:
Spouse: HESTER TAINTON
Marriage: 26 AUG 1822 Owlpen, Gloucester, England

where is Owlpen?

Truck loads of Holders Being baptised in Owlpen
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Quote:
where is Owlpen?
It's near Stroud Jess.
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Old 04-04-10, 18:54
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Most of my country bumpkins lived in places like "The village". Street names and numbers were usually only used in towns and cities.
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Old 04-04-10, 19:00
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Bren

I have the Owlpen marriages from 1887-1837
these are the Holder and variants marriages:

Richard Ford & Sarah Houlder 24 Oct 1697
Richard Holder & Hannah Fords 6 May 1755
Thomas Matthews & Elizabeth Holder 8 July 1755
James Houlder & Alice Cumming 7 June 1762
Samuel Holder & Ann Wilkins 20 Jan 1777
John Love & Hannah Holder by licence, consent of her parents 9 Sep 1777
Wm King, sojourner, & Mary Holder 22 Aug 1779

James Holder
& Jane Hook 7 May 1781
Anthony Dean [of] Uley & Hester Holder 16 July 1781
Matthew Ford & Elizabeth Holder 7 July 1794
Richard Holder & Rachel Summers [of] Uley, 11 Feb 1798
Shadrach Jobbins [Uley] & Sophia Holder 3 July 1808

Richard Holder
& Jane Young 27 Oct 1817
Edward Holder & Hester Tainton 26 Aug 1822
Ludbie Sherwood & Deborah Holder 24 Mar 1824
John Elliotts & Elizabeth Holder 5 Feb 1828
John Jobbins & Rachel Holder 20 Oct 1828
Enoch Barnfield of Cam & Sarah Holder 16 Nov 1833
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Old 04-04-10, 19:36
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Bren, how do you know Edward's parents names (on your Ancestry tree - Robert Holder and Elizabeth Rogers, nee Surmon), year of birth (1800) and wife's name (Margaret)?
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Old 05-04-10, 07:12
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that came throught ancestry and i put it but not sure its def.still searching.i was try to match with the early holders and story mum gave me before she died.i know they originated in taynton early 1500,s i get to late 1700,s from documents i have from gloucestershire records office then i habe my joseph born 1829/30.stroud and stanley,bulley ,taynton,east dean, are all little villiages all near each other in a block. at first i thought edward and hester tainton might be his parents.married 1822 owlpen another little villiage near taynton.brenda xxxx

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