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I have been looking at births that have been registered Male Shaw and there is one born 1844 in Cambridge which is only 17 miles from Saffron Walden and maybe the next stop on the Fair's round. I still can't find them in 1851, if we do then the next 5 Census records will show the rest of the family. I mean uncles Aunts they must all been traverling with the Fair. They were a true Romany family, I am told that they had the Romany horse drawn carrages. I think you are correct and Aaron and Sarah were not married in 1871.
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They might not be listed on the 1841 and 1851 censuses, Chas. I had a look earlier on but couldn't find them. It could be that they moved on before the enumerator arrived to collect / fill in the forms and nobody nearby knew their details.
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Thank you for all replies, I am waiting for Naomi's Birth Cert which should be here this week and may get me on a bit further.
This family may not have been in favour of the Cenesus list but I do know that every child born would have been Baptised in a Church somewhere even if it was not expected to live. All the Best Chas |
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Kate posted the baptism for Anis earlier. Here are some more children for Jasper and Sarah:
James Shaw 23 Nov 1806 Sandon, Hertford, England Jasper, Sarah Lucy Shaw 19 Nov 1809 Little Shelford, Cambridge, England Jasper, Sarah Annis Shaw 24 Jan 1813 Cottered, Hertford, England Jasper, Sarah Sophia Shaw 12 Sep 1819 Stotfold, Bedford, England, Jasper, Sarah Sydney Shaw 10 Feb 1822 Tempsford, Bedford, England Jasper, Sarah Lawrance Shaw 29 Jun 1828 Layston, Hertford, England Jasper, Sarah (he's next door to Anis in 1861) Also a marriage for Sydney: Name: Sidney Shaw Spouse's Name: Susannah Millyn Smith Event Date: 18 Jul 1847 Event Place: Cambridge, Cambridge, England Father's Name: Jasper Shaw Spouse's Father's Name: John Smith Marital Status: Single Spouse's Marital Status: Single All the above are from Family Search. I noted Sophia's baptism at Stotfold in Bedfordshire as I'd already seen this burial transcript on FMP (Nat Burial Index) and wondered if it was their father: First name(s) JASPER Last name SHAW Birth year 1781 Death year 1841 Age 60 Burial year 1841 Burial day 11 Burial month 8 Place STOTFOLD Church description ST MARY THE VIRGIN Annoyingly, I couldn't find him on the 1841 census to check his occupation. Of course this burial may be a complete red herring! I looked for a marriage for Jasper and Sarah and saw that a couple of ancestry trees have the marriage at Orwell in Cambs in 1800. However, the Joiner Marriage Index and a transcript completed by Rev Whiston rector of Orwell in the early 20thC both have the groom as Jesse: Jesse Shaw of Orwell, and Sarah Smith of Orwell, December 28, 1800
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I was looking for a baptism for Noah in Great Barford, but didn't find one. I did find this, which may or may not turn out to be connected to an earlier generation!
14 June 1818 SHAW Elijah son of Aaron and Priscilla Basket maker, travellers Gt Barford http://www.sgibbs1.freeserve.co.uk/g...baptismsnz.htm
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Many thanks, I've entered all your data and matched it with some records in my Public "Pring" tree on Ancestry.
I have had a look at Elijah Aaron and Priscilla but not knowing Aaron's parents I can't make the connection. There has to be a good chance its's Aaron's Grand parents and Elijah an Uncle. Looks like Annis named most of her children after her siblings. Chas |
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Oooh, here's a coincidence!
I see from Googling that many have Jasper Shaw (1781 - 1841) as the son of Moses and Susanna and bap at Whittlesford, Cambs in 1781. I found this: http://www.thebirdtree.co.uk/showmedia.php?mediaID=427 which was written by the brother of my great-grandfather!
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Here's the marriage for Moses and Susannah mentioned in the last sentence of that link:
First name(s) MOSES Last name SHAW Marriage year 1764 Marriage day 25 Marriage month Jun Place HORNSEY Groom's first name(s) Moses Groom's last name SHAW Bride's first name(s) Susannah Bride's last name DIMMOCK County Middlesex Country England Record set West Middlesex Marriage Index Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
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I already knew George N Maynard and his father (my 2xg) had both written about their village and some local personalities, and that some were gypsies, but I hadn't remembered the name Shaw. The minute I saw a couple had been baptised at Whittlesford I knew I'd find something! lol
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