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I must go to bed now, but another thing I want to find out is whether Alfred Ryder and his wife really couldn't afford to take the children in - Alfred is an accountant on Jessie's marriage certificate! And their other grandfather was a judge - surely someone could have taken them in!
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I've only watched about half so far but I'm really enjoying it and quite impressed with Sam Womack - she's a bit excitable but really throwing herself into it and thinking quite intelligently about it all.
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I haven't found a death for Pierre, nor a marriage for the Finkles (although I suppose that could have taken place in USA).
The Alfred "Wright" (Ryder) who apeared at the inquest of Anthony, didn't appear to be an accountant. I wonder if the MC was bigged up (oh, how unusual) and he was something more mundane like a book keeper? OC |
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I still haven't managed to watch this yet - an opportunity may come along this evening though......!
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Okay, this is Alfred Ryder (Jessie's father) in 1891, at 48 Grafton St, Pancras, which is the address on Jessie's marriage certificate:
1891 census Alfred Ryder Head M 50 Silversmith's Clerk Devon Devonport Augusta Do Daur S 19 Do Plymouth Archibald Do Son S 16 Do Do Ethel Do Daur S 14 Music Hall Artiste Do Do Patti Do Daur 12 Do Do Do Do and a load of boarders. Now I can see where Jessie got the idea to put her daughter on the stage at a very young age!
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And this is the Ryder family in 1881:
1881 census entry Alfred's wife is Fanny, age 40 born Devon Devonport, and Jessie is with the family, age 14, scholar, born Devon Plymouth.
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Thanks Kate, that's interesting but expected - he was a clerk, not an accountant!
Given the unusual nature of the surname Garraud, I wonder who is Edward Garraud who marries in 1910 to Sarah Sellers? Is there any sight of Pierre Garraud in 1891? OC |
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Found Jessie's mother in 1891 in Devon with one of Jessie's married sisters. Fanny's occupation is Vocalist (Music).
1891 census Alfred Ryder in 1901: 1901 census entry He is head of household with a few boarders. Marital status M but his wife isn't there. If Alfred and Fanny were separated it might explain why they couldn't have the children living with them. Of course it could just be that Fanny happened to be away from home on census night. Or maybe she travelled around performing on stage too.
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Not managed to find him yet. He is 27 on the marriage certificate, bachelor, accountant, gives the Ryders' address.
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Edward was born in France about 1884-5. Occupation Hairdresser on the 1911 census. May or may not be related, I suppose.
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