Elizabeth Lowder

[kiterunner]

I'm looking at the will of John Lowder Esqr of Bath, banker, written on the 25th May 1802 and proved at the PCC 19 Jul 1810. He mentions his wife Ann, who was nee Ann Glass, daughter of Dr Thomas Glass of Exeter (they married 1 May 1778 at St Mary Arches, Exeter). Then his daughters Elizabeth Kay, the wife of William Kay of Rochdale, Cotton Manufacturer, and Mary Ann Lees, the wife of John Lees of Fairfield, Lancashire, merchant. Then any other children. A codicil from 1806 mentions that his son John Lowder was now married.

On FreeREG they have 27 Aug 1799 at St Swithin, Walcot, Bath, John Lees of the County of Lancaster married Mariaine Lowder, by licence, and then 1 Jan 1802 at the same church, William Kay, bachelor, of Rochdale, married Elizabeth Lowder, spinster, also by licence.

I have found baptisms for children of John and Ann Lowder listed on FMP and FamilySearch at Southampton St Lawrence & St John: Thomas Glass Lowder 1779, Mary Ann 1780, John 3 Nov 1781 (or 1782?) and William 20 Nov 1783.

But can anyone find Elizabeth's baptism, please? I'm not sure whether she was born after 1783, making her pretty young when she got married, or if she was born before 1779, either very soon after John and Ann's wedding, or was she John's daughter by a previous marriage? The fact that she is mentioned before Mary Ann in the will suggests that she was the elder of the two.

[Merry]

John Lowder's death is reported in the Bristol Mirror 26 May 1810. He was aged 72.

[Merry]

Is Miss Glass your relation? (I'm thinking Glasscodine, or however it's spelled)

She is described as "an agreeable young lady with a genteel fortune and every qualification to render the marriage state happy" in the Hampshire Chronicle 11 May 1778

[Merry]

No luck with that bap at the moment

[ElizabethHerts]

I can't find her either, Kate.

[Merry]

Oh, here's a clue re finding Elizabeth:

Liverpool Mail Merseyside, England
5 Feb 1853
METEOROLOGICAL TABLE
Parish Church. West Drayton. Middlesex. the Rev. E. Allea. rector of Hartley, Kent, the Rev. John Lowder Kay, M.A., third son of the late William Kay. Esq., of Grove-house, near this town, to Anne, eldest daughter of Henry Lamb, Esq., Salisbury-square,

Here's the marriage cert:

http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/16...nSearchResults

JLK's death:

Deaths Mar 1877 KAY JOHN LOWDER 59 Brackley 3b 8

so born around 1818.

Positive sighting on the 1861 census as he used his middle name (spelled Louder by ancestry) b 1819 Manchester (I was hoping for somewhere smaller lol)

Oxford University Alumni describes Wm, father of JLK as of Ardwick nr Manchester.

Hmm..... am stuck now lol

[Merry]

There's a William Kay Close in Moss Side Manchester!

It would have been helpful if his son hadn't just said gentleman for his late father's occ. I guess he may have been some sort of manufacturer?

[Merry]

Ooh, the address of the International Society charity:

William Kay House, 327 Oxford Road, Atherton, Manchester, Greater Manchester, M13 9PG

I have to do other things now..........

[kiterunner]

Originally Posted by Merry

Oxford University Alumni describes Wm, father of JLK as of Ardwick nr Manchester.

Also, it says "arm.", which should mean that he had a coat of arms!

[Mary from Italy]

Any chance of finding the marriage bond/allegation, which should give Elizabeth's age?