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wendythomas 29-08-14 16:12

Evan Griffith USA
 
I'm looking for information about my great grandfather's brother Evan Griffirth born at Hendy,Sarn Meillteyrn near Pwllheli North Wales in1871the son of John and Laura Griffith.He went to live in America sometime in the 1890's to Rome Utica New York.He married Amy Jones in June 1902.I know he had a daughter called Ellenwho married a Hugh Lloyd Jones.Any information would be appreciated.

kiterunner 29-08-14 16:55

So we have somewhere to start from, here is the family on the 1881 Welsh census:
1881 census on ancestry
Hendy, Meilltyrn, Caernarvonshire
John Griffith Head Mar 60 Farmer born Carnarvonshire Meilltyrn
Laura Griffith Wife Mar 45 Farmer's wife born Carnarvonshire Aberech
Laura Griffith Daur 14 born Meilltyrn
William Griffith Son 12 born Meilltyrn
Evan Griffith Son 9 born Meilltyrn
Sarah Griffith Dau 6 born Meilltyrn
Eliza Griffith Dau 2 born Meilltyrn

I'll see what else I can find now...

ElizabethHerts 29-08-14 17:11

There is an Evan Griffith leaving in 1888. Despite the information here, it says he was from Wales.

Name: Evan Griffith
Arrival Date: 20 Feb 1888
Birth Date: abt 1870
Age: 18
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: British (English)
Place of Origin: Wales
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Destination: Pennsylvania
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Servia
Search Ship Database: Search the Servia in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database

kiterunner 29-08-14 17:21

On the 1891 Welsh census, William is the only one still with John and Laura:
1891 Welsh census on ancestry

kiterunner 29-08-14 18:00

There is an Evan Griffith in Rome, Oneida, New York, on the 1940 US Census (and Google seems to say that this is the same Rome as Rome, Utica) but his wife is Margaret, and he says he was born in New York:

1940 US Census on ancestry

214 N Washington St, Rome, Oneida, New York
Griffith Evan Head age 64 married, born New York, lived in same house in 1935,
Margaret Wife age 66 born New York, lived in same house in 1935

The 1926 Rome City Directory lists an Evan J Griffith boarding at that address, an employee at RB&C, no wife's name listed.
The 1894 directory has an Evan I Griffith at 318 W Whitesboro, but he is also listed there (as householder) in 1885 so can't be your Evan.
In 1929 Evan J Griffith and wife Margaret are at 202 W Park, and his occupation is labeller.
So I think this is the same Evan J Griffith who is age 50 on the 1925 New York State Census and his birthplace is US on there too. So it looks as though I am barking up the wrong tree here! Back to the drawing board... (sorry for mixed metaphor)

kiterunner 29-08-14 18:15

The Evan Griffith who Elizabeth found on the 1888 passenger list is with an Edmund Griffin age 16 but there was no Edmund with the family on the 1881 census so may not be the right person.

kiterunner 29-08-14 18:20

There is an Evan Griffiths age 22, farmer, Welsh, last residence Llandovery, final destination New York, arriving in Philadelphia Apr 1895 on the "Lord Gough" but I think it says he is going to join his uncle John Griffiths so probably not the right person either:
Passenger list

kiterunner 29-08-14 18:25

Oh wait, just found a Rootschat thread about these people; I think we will need to read through it before doing any more searching:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=692824.0

kiterunner 29-08-14 18:43

Right, that thread helped a lot. So it looks as though what you are trying to find out is what happened to Evan after his wife's death in 1909, is that right?
These are Ellen and Richard, the twins, with their aunt and uncle on the 1910 US census:
1910 US Census

kiterunner 29-08-14 18:45

And this link is to the report of Evan and Amy's wedding, taken from the Rootschat thread. Evan's name is Evan J Griffith in the report:
http://fultonhistory.com/Newspapers%...20-%201020.pdf


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