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Lorraine Karen 30-05-19 17:06

Thank you very much!

I'll look into those people further see if I can spot anything else.

It was from using family history forums we found out what happened to Ruth - another more experienced person found a Ruth Jezzard Congdon (our Ruth Jezard) - then from
that we were able to find out the next part of Ruth's amazing story in San Francisco

Thanks again!

Lorraine Karen 30-05-19 17:09

Beat me to it!

kiterunner 30-05-19 17:26

Okay, I've been through the other possibles from Findmypast and ruled them out too - they were entries with date of birth 30 Oct and unclear years. In most cases the year had been corrected but neither the original year nor the corrected one was 1890.

Lorraine Karen 30-05-19 17:46

Thank you!

I haven't been able to trace Eliza Thrasher/Torplow/Triplow/Jezard getting married, in a census after 1891 (is known as Torplow/Triplow in 1891) or dying and the same for Violet (Jezard in 1901) - they both disappear. Again a family history forum found Priscilla and her daughters including Eliza in 1891 as Torplow/Triplow with Priscilla saying she came from Cardiff (and not Hartest) - and from that discovery found out more and more.

Do you think they changed their names again?

With Edward Leslie Court who emigrated in 1926, the Canadian Family History Societies have kindly looked for us but also advised their Canadian Records are unreliable - he wouldn't need to change his name would he? I wonder if Edward ever went across the Canadian border into America to visit his mother Ruth in San Francisco?

Lorraine Karen 30-05-19 18:39

Please does anyone know why Violet was baptised age 6 and Horace baptised age 3 and baptised together as cousins (they were living together with their grandmother and possibly mothers at 133 Finborough Road, Kensington).

Have always been under the impression that children were baptised as soon as possible in case they died soon after birth.

Lorraine Karen 30-05-19 19:06

Please can you help.

Louisa Thrasher was born in 1873, Kensington.

She had three sisters, Eliza, Alice and Ruth born 1879 - their father Robert Thrasher died in 1879.

In the 1881 census Louisa is found in a boarding school, Chelsea, Mayfair.

http://www.childrenshomes.org.uk/list/LondonW.shtml

In the 1881 census her mother Priscilla, sisters Eliza, Alice and Ruth (later Ruth Jezard) are living in a boarding house, Chelsea, Belgrave their mother a cook.

The head of the boarding school is Catherine Poetl, Matron with the School Service - what exactly was the School Service?

What type of boarding school is this - is it teaching middle class skills, servants skills, theatrical skills, a reform school, a pauper school if Priscilla is unable to cope financially/emotionally/physically with four young daughters?

The girls at the boarding school are mostly very local to that area of London and mostly their mothers are widows - were there special schools to help widows?

Thanks for your thoughts.

Phoenix 30-05-19 21:39

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Originally Posted by Lorraine Karen (Post 360138)
Please does anyone know why Violet was baptised age 6 and Horace baptised age 3 and baptised together as cousins (they were living together with their grandmother and possibly mothers at 133 Finborough Road, Kensington).

Have always been under the impression that children were baptised as soon as possible in case they died soon after birth.

In the country, and in an earlier period, children would be baptised very close to birth. By the end of the C19th they tended to be nearer a month old. Before civil registration, baptism was an important proof of parenthood, helpful if you needed to claim poor relief. But if you lived in a town, you were far less likely to be swooped upon by a zealous vicar. And you could claim you were non-conformist. In London, plenty of children were baptised late, or in different denominations, or not at all.

btw, have you considered that Sacillia and Priscilla might be the same person?

kiterunner 30-05-19 21:41

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Originally Posted by Lorraine Karen (Post 360138)
Please does anyone know why Violet was baptised age 6 and Horace baptised age 3 and baptised together as cousins (they were living together with their grandmother and possibly mothers at 133 Finborough Road, Kensington).

Have always been under the impression that children were baptised as soon as possible in case they died soon after birth.

They were in earlier centuries, but not so much by that time because infant mortality was much lower. And not so much emphasis was placed on religious observance by then.

kiterunner 30-05-19 22:01

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Originally Posted by Lorraine Karen (Post 360139)
The head of the boarding school is Catherine Poetl, Matron with the School Service - what exactly was the School Service?

It doesn't say that she was with "the School Service" - her occupation was written in as Matron and then one of the people who extracted and categorised the census data wrote in "Sch Service" to show what category her occupation was to be classed as.

Merry 30-05-19 22:03

I couldn't find out much about the school. I think the "school service" notation has been added to the information written by the census enumerator to show what sort of matron Catherine was. The address 2 Market Mews wasn't a school in 1871 or 1891.


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