Mr Foot, Father of Ann, OH's MFMMF

[Sue at the seaside]

Absolutely nothing known about this man...... His daughter Ann Foot was born about 1807 in Bethnal Green, London

Name - "official" name and what they were known as
Mr Foot

Date and place of birth
??

Names of parents
??

Date and place of baptism - if applicable
??

Details of each of his or her marriages - if any
??

Occupation(s) - if any
??

Addresses where they lived (including county if in UK) - and please list which censuses you have or haven't found him/her on (if s/he lived in census times!).
??

Date, place and cause of death
??

Date and place of burial.
Details of will / administration of their estate - if applicable
Memorial inscription - if any

[kiterunner]

Can you give us the info you have about Ann, please, Sue?

[Sue at the seaside]

Thanks for looking at this Kite, Here is what I have on Ann


Name - "official" name and what they were known as
Ann Foot
Date and place of birth
Abt 1807 Bethnal Green
Names of parents
?
Date and place of baptism - if applicable
?
Details of each of his or her marriages - if any
To Thomas Yeowell, Nov 1829, Christchurch, Spitalfields
Addresses where they lived (including county if in UK) - and please list which censuses you have or haven't found him/her on (if s/he lived in census times!).
1841- 1881, Gloucester St, Bethnal Green
Date, place and cause of death
?

[Asa]

Not necessarily the father either way but is the first witness Robert Foot??

[Sue at the seaside]

Not necessarily the father either way but is the first witness Robert Foot??

Why do you ask that, have you found something I haven't???

[Asa]

Sorry Sue, I meant on the marriage of Thomas & Ann - it looks like the witness could be Robert Foot

[maggie_4_7]

I found another marriage for Thomas Yeowell widower to another Ann surname Green in 1835 at St Leonard, Shoreditch. It's not a common name so it looks like the first Ann surname Foot died. Or am I missing something!


http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?htx=View&r=5538&dbid=1623&iid=31281_A101889-00010&fn=Thomas&ln=Yeowell&st=r&ssrc=&pid=733567

[Asa]

Ah so it's Ann Green on census Maggie - Ann Foot seems to have had a couple of children so it depends which of the two Anns Sue's descended from

[maggie_4_7]

Unfortunately if Ann Foot died before 1835 it's going to be hard to track her burial down, the baptisms for the children - anything after 1935 can be assumed their mother is Ann Green not Ann Foot.

I'll have a look for a burial and a subsequent death for the second Ann.

[maggie_4_7]

I found two later burials for Ann Yeowell and a Thomas Yeowell it may be Sue already has these but I'll post them anyway ...

Also I don't know if Sue can see the links.

This is Thomas and it's the right address Gloucester Street - burial 1876 at Hackney St John.
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?htx=View&r=5538&dbid=1559&iid=31280_199163-00231&fn=Thomas&ln=Yeowell&st=r&ssrc=&pid=9467753

This is Ann and it's Caroline Street! but at Hackney St John 1877.
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?htx=View&r=5538&dbid=1559&iid=31280_199163-00240&fn=Ann&ln=Yeowell&st=r&ssrc=&pid=9467264

Caroline St could have been an hospital location or a relative's house I don't know.

Edit to say: They've put Caroline St, Clapton but I think that's wrong there was a Caroline Street off Hackney Rd (now Cadell St) and Gloucester St was off Hackney Road too.

[maggie_4_7]

I think there are two Thomas and Ann Yeowells floating about!

Edit: What is the last census you have both Thomas and Ann on? Who is your ancestor descdended from Thomas and Ann Yeowell?

[Sue at the seaside]

What a minefield! Thanks so much for giving me loads to think about. I'll review everything later. I do remember the Ann Green thing, can't remember why I didn't think she was mine.

I'll be back later, got to go out.

Thanks so much for looking at this

[Sue at the seaside]

I think there are two Thomas and Ann Yeowells floating about!

Edit: What is the last census you have both Thomas and Ann on? Who is your ancestor descdended from Thomas and Ann Yeowell?

There is most definately 2 families with the same name!

In 1871 Thomas and Ann are at 40 Gloucester St

In 1881 Ann is a widow and living as a boarder at 37 Gloster St, so that would make it look that the death you found could be the Ann Green. Ive found the other Thomas's death on freeBMD (not on ancestry!!!!) as 1868

Our line goes though their daughter Mary Ann b 1832 in Bethnal Green

[Sue at the seaside]

Sorry Sue, I meant on the marriage of Thomas & Ann - it looks like the witness could be Robert Foot


I understood what you meant, but where have you seen this? all I can find on Ancestry is the record of the banns. The actual marriage would be a real gem!

I'm not sure I have any real evidence that Ann Foot is the wife rather than Ann Green, BUT Ann Foot married Thomas in 1829, their first child was born in 1830, the next 1832, and the next 1834. Ann Green didn't marry her Thomas Yeowell until 1835. That was my logic.

[Asa]

Sue - they're helpfully transcribed as Thomas Sparvell and Anne Hoot

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?htx=View&r=5538&dbid=1623&iid=31280_194734-00050&fn=Anne&ln=Hoot&st=d&ssrc=&pid=6187771

[Asa]

So the Thomas and Ann Yeowell in Hackney 1851 - Class: HO107; Piece: 1505; Folio: 315; Page: 35 - are not yours. He's 30 years older than his Ann and the children's births would all be post 1835 so she's Ann Green.

Yours are the other ones, who are in Bethnal Green. Piece: 1539; Folio: 552; Page: 24 - they have the children all born before 1835.

[maggie_4_7]

I think that may be your Thomas' burial then but not Ann. He's address is given as Gloucester Street, Hackney Road. Are you able to see the image?

[Asa]

That must be right, Maggie - the 1868 burial is for the older Thomas born c1780 in Chertsey who married Ann Green

[Asa]

Ah, the two Thomases are father and son aren't they? The older Thomas marries Mary Macer in 1803 in Shoreditch, son Thomas is baptised 1804 in Rotherhithe. The younger Thomas marries Ann Foot in Spitalfields in 1829. His mother Mary is buried in Hackney in 1833 and Thomas senior marries Ann Green in 1835.

Is that right?

[maggie_4_7]

errr there's another Thomas and Ann floating about in Hackney other than those two! So it's confusing but it might be you're right about that Thomas and Sue's Thomas' relationship.

Sue's - occupation printer/compositor:

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&db=uki1851%2c&rank=1&gsfn=Thomas+robert&gsln=yoewell&=%2c%2c1%2c+%2c%2c&gsby=1810&gsb2co=3251%2cEngland&gsb2pl=5274%2cLondon&gsdy=&gsd2co=1%2cAll+Countries&gsd2pl=1%2c+&sbo=0&sbor=&srchb=r&prox=1&ti=5538&ti.si=0&gss=angs-d&pcat=35&fh=14&h=279891&recoff=7&qid=269ae4bf8df6446e8a057a3301945359

and another lot occupation Labourer/Bricklayer.

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&db=uki1851%2c&rank=1&gsfn=Thomas+robert&gsln=yoewell&=%2c%2c1%2c+%2c%2c&gsby=1810&gsb2co=3251%2cEngland&gsb2pl=5274%2cLondon&gsdy=&gsd2co=1%2cAll+Countries&gsd2pl=1%2c+&sbo=0&sbor=&srchb=r&prox=1&ti=5538&ti.si=0&gss=angs-d&pcat=35&fh=13&h=2591585&recoff=6&qid=269ae4bf8df6446e8a057a3301945359

Edit actually that's your one but I'm sure there's another lot... I am getting confused :)

I have found a Robert Foot on census married to a Dinah about the same age as Ann but I can't link any baptisms between a Robert and Ann.

[maggie_4_7]

I know we're going off track and should be concentrating on the Foots but in the meantime I found Thomas Yoewell the younger's probate. I expect Sue has it.

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?htx=View&r=5538&dbid=1904&iid=31874_222862-00581&fn=Thomas&ln=Yeowell&st=r&ssrc=&pid=852351

[Sue at the seaside]

Sue - they're helpfully transcribed as Thomas Sparvell and Anne Hoot

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?htx=View&r=5538&dbid=1623&iid=31280_194734-00050&fn=Anne&ln=Hoot&st=d&ssrc=&pid=6187771

That is fantastic, thank you.


I am greatly embarrassed to say That of course I have the details of Thomas Yeowell and Ann Green, and of course it should have sprung to mind who they were, but as Thomas the younger's Mum is Mary Macer, Ann Green was the 2nd marriage and a bit of a sideline! I really should have looked at the wider picture before you all put in so much time and effort.

But on the upside, You have found Ann Green's death for me! and confirmed all my findings. It's good to have second opinons.

Now of to see what I can find on Robert Foot.

And thank you, I have been able to see all the images

[Sue at the seaside]

I have found a Robert Foot on census married to a Dinah about the same age as Ann but I can't link any baptisms between a Robert and Ann.

Way of subject by now, but one of the witnesses at Robert and Dinah's marriage is John Foot, There is a bap of Robert with father John, mother Susannah at St Matthew Bethnal Green 1810, But still no trace of Ann!