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HarrysMum
01-04-11, 08:11
Name - "official" name and what they were known as
Thomas Hart

Date and place of birth
About 1813, Middle Hulton Lancs

Names of parents

Date and place of baptism - if applicable

Details of each of his or her marriages - if any
Ann Partington, 14th August 1836, All Saints Wigan Lancs

Occupation(s) - if any
Coal miner

Addresses where they lived (including county if in UK) - and please list which censuses you have or haven't found him/her on (if s/he lived in census times!).
1841........HO107 Piece 513 Book 4
1851.......HO107 Piece 2206 Folio 483 Page 5
1861........RG9 Piece 2810 Folio 116 Page 5
1871....RG10 Piece 3921 Folio 32 Page 13
1881...RG11 Piece 3810 Folio 66 Page 5

Date, place and cause of death

Date and place of burial.
Details of will / administration of their estate - if applicable
Memorial inscription - if any

kiterunner
01-04-11, 09:33
Looks like both the witnesses at the wedding were "serial witnesses".

kiterunner
01-04-11, 09:42
The nearest baptism I can see on Lancs OPC is Thomas Hart baptised 22 Apr 1810 Peel Chapel, Little Hulton, son of Thomas Hart, weaver, but it gives abode as "Little Hilton" and it's a few years too early.

kiterunner
01-04-11, 10:13
Death registration on Lancs BMD - 1885 Thomas Hart age 72, sub-district Little Hulton (GRO district is Bolton, Jul-Sep quarter).
Burial is on Lancs OPC - 29 Aug 1885 St Mary the Virgin, Deane, Lancashire
Thomas Hart age 72, abode Middle Hulton.

He was living at Middle Hulton on the 1881 census age 68 so this must be him.

kiterunner
01-04-11, 10:17
And the National Probate Calendar entry from 1885:
HART Thomas. Personal estate £176 5s.
10 September. The Will of Thomas Hart late of Davy Brow Middle Hulton in the County of Lancaster Gentleman who died 26 August 1885 at Davy Brow was proved at Manchester by John Hart of 477 Rivington-view Middle Hulton Grocer and Thomas Hart of 18 St. Helen's-road Rumworth in the said County Grocer the Sons the Executors.

(His occupation on the 1881 census was Provision Dealer.)

kiterunner
01-04-11, 10:32
Aha!
Thomas has a William Hart age 13, coal miner, with him in 1841, and in 1851 he is Thomas's brother, age 20, unmarried, coal miner, born Lancashire Shakerley. This must be Tyldesley cum Shakerley, and in 1871 and 1881 there is a William Hart, coal miner born Tyldesley living in Middle Hulton with wife Nancy and children Mary E, Sarah A and James A. In 1861 William's birth place is Over Hulton and daughter Mary Elizabeth is age 7 months.
Looking at Lancashire BMD, all three children (Mary, Sarah and James) have MMN Yates.

So, this must be the marriage, from Lancs OPC:
Marriage: 10 Jul 1859 St Mary the Virgin, Deane, Lancashire, England
William Hart - (X), 26 Miner Bachelor of Middle Hulton
Nancy Yates - (X), 22 Spinster of Middle Hulton
Groom's Father: John Hart, Weaver
Bride's Father: James Hathern, Miner
Witness: James Haslam; Betsy Lane, (X)
Married by Banns by: Francis H Thicknesse Vicar

So Thomas's father should be John Hart, weaver, too.

kiterunner
01-04-11, 10:51
FamilySearch has a baptism for a William Hart, 21 Mar 1830, at Deane, parents John and Sarah, but I can't find it on Lancs OPC to get John's residence and occupation (because they haven't done Deane baptisms from that year yet).

And also baptised at Deane, with parents John and Sarah:
Hannah Hart 24 Mar 1811
Thos Hart 2 Jan 1813
Mary Hart 23 Sep 1815

HarrysMum
01-04-11, 11:12
You are brilliant....................

I have another riddle...but I'll give it it's own thread on research I think......

Thank you....