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Crafty Sue
14-11-10, 16:23
Name - "official" name and what they were known as
Timothy Tooley

Date and place of birth
1779

Names of parents
Timothy & Elizabeth Tooley (nee Arthurton)

Date and place of baptism - if applicable
26 Dec 1779 Mattishall and Dereham Congregational Church (from Freereg)

Details of each of his or her marriages - if any
Ann Fox 21 Mar 1803 Norwich, Norfolk - St Gregory

Occupation(s) - if any
Wool comber (according to children’s baptism entries at Norwich,
St Augustine Church)

Addresses where they lived (including county if in UK) - and please list which censuses you have or haven't found him/her on (if s/he lived in census times!).
Not found on any census

Date, place and cause of death
Not found

Date and place of burial.
Not found

Details of will / administration of their estate - if applicable

Memorial inscription - if any

ElizabethHerts
14-11-10, 17:09
Sue, when was the last child born?

If we know this, we have a time frame to search for a burial for you.

ElizabethHerts
14-11-10, 17:13
The Family Search Pilot site has his baptism too - twice!
Name: Timothy Tooley
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 26 Dec 1779
Baptism/Christening Place: INDEPENDENT,MATTISHALL AND DEREHAM,NORFOLK,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
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Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Timothy Tooley
Father's Birthplace:
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Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C07503-1
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 596997
Reference Number:
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Crafty Sue
15-11-10, 15:47
Thanks for your interest Elizabeth, sorry for the late reply (sewing classes today :))

These are the children I have for Timothy & Ann:

Charles bn ? died 1809
Susanna bn 1812
Charles William bap 5 Jan 1817 St Augustine, Norwich
Hannah (my 2x gt grandmother) bap 28 Feb 1819 St Augustine, Norwich
Sarah bap 28 Jan 1821 St Augustine, Norwich (mother Ann has been recorded as late Cook, not Fox on bap record)

Many thanks for looking,
Sue

ElizabethHerts
15-11-10, 16:11
There is this burial in 1825, but no age given, which is a shame:

Name: Timothy Tooley
Gender: Male
Burial Date: 26 Oct 1825
Burial Place: St. Clement'S, Norwich, Norfolk, England
Death Date:
Death Place:
Age:
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Occupation:
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Mother's Name:
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Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I03818-0
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1517746
Reference Number: item 5 p 36
Collection: England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991

ElizabethHerts
15-11-10, 16:12
Bother, also this one!

Name: Timothy Tooley
Gender: Male
Burial Date: 27 Nov 1822
Burial Place: Norwich, Norfolk England
Death Date:
Death Place:
Age:
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Occupation:
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Marital Status:
Spouse's Name:
Father's Name:
Father's Birthplace:
Mother's Name:
Mother's Birthplace:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I03664-0
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1470974
Reference Number: 8
Collection: England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991

Merry
15-11-10, 16:17
There's this burial, but he's about 5 years too old. However, I don't know how common/rare his name would be?

County Norfolk
Place Norwich
Church St Clements
RegisterNumber 284
BurialDate 26 Oct 1825
Forename Timothy
Surname TOOLEY
Age 51
Abode St Martin at Oak
Notes
FileNumber 14455

Merry
15-11-10, 16:18
Oooh, snap!

Crafty Sue
15-11-10, 18:03
Thanks Merry & Elizabeth, have made a note of those burials. Shame they are before 1837.

I've not been able to make much headway tracing all the sibling lines yet, and as my Timothy's father was also a Timothy, there could well be more!

Sue

Lizzyj
02-02-11, 19:40
Hi Sue

i came accross this looking for Timothy Tooley.

I believe the Timothy you are looking for info on would be the brother of
Mary Tooley, who i believe to be the daughter of Timothy TOOLEY and Elizabeth ARTHURTON.

Mary is believed to have been baptised on the 01 January 1767 at East Tuddenham in Norfolk.

Does this fit in with your family tree at all??

I so i have details on her decendants as this is my husbands family and i am trying to create a family tree for them.

I would also be interested in any information you have on Timothy TOOLEY and Elizabeth ARTHURTON.

Thanks
Liz

Crafty Sue
03-02-11, 19:54
Hi Liz,

Thankyou for your reply on this thread.

I do have a sister, Mary Tooley, to my Timothy who was baptised 1 Jan 1767. But I also had her burial on 07 Feb 1767 in East Tuddenham, this information came from Freereg, which states she was the daughter of Timothy & Elizabeth. So I'd be interested in any information you have.

Sue

Lizzyj
03-02-11, 21:16
Oh thats interesting, there was a lot of confusion over who our Mary Tooleys parents were. The death information for your mary tooley takes us back to the origional finding that she is an illigetimate child of a Sarah Tooley, Timothys unmarried sister, and actually born around 1770.

Our Mary Tooley married John Bligh

John BLYE of this parish single man and Mary TOOLEY of the same single were married
in this church by banns 10 October 1797 Brandon Parva Norfolk England.
(Reference FHC Film 1526810 Brandon Parish Records Norfolk)

Mary BLIGH formerly TOOLEY age 56 died about 1826 and was buried on 30 November
1826 Ashill Parish Church Norfolk England.
(Reference FHC Film 1596157 Church records and Norwich Records Office National Burial Index).

I would be interested on your take on this and if you can shed any light on Sarah Tooley.

Crafty Sue
04-02-11, 17:15
Hmm.. that's interesting, I don't have a Sarah Tooley amongst Timothy's (1779) siblings... oh!

I have Timothy Tooley & Elizabeth Arthurton marriage 27 Dec 1759 at East Tuddenham, Norfolk

And these are the children I have for them all sourced from freereg:

Rebecca bap 1764 at Hockering (exact date not given) buried 10 Nov 1766 East Tuddenham
Susanna bap 1765 at Hockering
Mary bap 01 Jan 1767 at East Tuddenham buried 07 Feb 1767 East Tuddenham
Michael bap 17 Oct 1768 East Tuddenham
Rebecca bap 28 Oct 1770 East Tuddenham buried 10 Nov 1770 East Tuddenham
Stephen bap 25 Jul 1773 Mattishall & Dareham, Norfolk -Congregational
Samuel bap 23 Jun 1776 Mattishall & Dareham, Norfolk -Congregational
Timothy bap 26 Dec 1779 Mattishall & Dareham, Norfolk -Congregational - married Ann(e) Fox 21 Mar 1803 Norwich - St Gregory

I don't know if this helps or hinders..lol..

Sue

Lizzyj
05-02-11, 02:00
i think that it clears up that Timothy and Elizabeth are not her parents and i now have a mystery Sarah Tooley, mother of Mary Tooley. Better a blank space that incorrect information.

Thankyou for your help.
Liz

Crafty Sue
05-02-11, 07:51
As I've not been able to view the actual parish register, there could well be gaps in my information. So I wouldn't rule out Sarah being a daughter of Timothy & Elizabeth just yet.

My Timothy (son of Timothy & Elizabeth) named a daughter Sarah & Timothy snr's father also named a daughter Sarah, so the name seems to run in the family (I know it's not unusual :))

Do let me know how you get on & I'll try and do some more digging around. It's a shame that the images of these parish registers are not available on the familysearch site. As I've been able to sort out a lot of my other lines from other parishes.

Sue

Lizzyj
06-02-11, 06:26
Timothy Snrs father named a daughter Sarah?? do you have a year of birth for her, and was she alive cir 1770??

I am a bit at a loss of where to go from here as i am on the other side of the world, i may have to put this puzzle on the back burner!

i will let you know if i stumble over anything new. Good luck with your searching.

Liz