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Crafty Sue
24-10-10, 09:16
Please can I have some help with Jane Pannell, bap Jun 1822 in Buriton, Hampshire.

I think I may have found her married with children in 1871 & 1881 and with her widowed sister in 1891.

Can anyone find her in 1851 or 1861, the possible marriage and any sighting of her husband please?

1841: she is with her parents in Buriton, Hampshire:
HO107; Piece 396; Book: 16; Folio: 12; Page: 18

1851: not found

1854 - possible marriage – only three names on page:
England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
Joseph Hemmings Jun Q 1854 Whitechapel vol 1c page 737
- other names on page Sarah Doggett & Henry Field (I've found these two, married in 1861)

1861: not found

1871: RG10; Piece: 566; Folio: 32; Page: 11 - 155 Globe? Rd, Mile End Old Town, London
Jane Hemmings 48 - married, bn Hampshire c1823, occ: housekeeper
Joseph Hemmings 16 son - bn c1855 Middlesex, occ: sawyer
George Hemmings 14son - bn c1857 Middlesex, occ: toy maker
Charles Webb 27 – lodger

1881: RG11; Piece: 480; Folio: 8; Page: 10 - Essex? St, Mile End Town, London
Jane Hemmings 58 - married bn c1823 Brunton, Hampshire (mistranscribed? possibly Buriton), occ: charwoman
George Hemmings 24 son - bn c1857 Whitechapel, Middlesex, occ: toy maker

1891: RG12; Piece: 946; Folio 83; Page 11 - Bramshot, Hampshire
Margart Envis 69 - widow, bn c1822 Buriton, Hampshire
Jane Hemmings 68 - visitor, married, bn c1823 Buriton, Hampshire

This appears to be her son, now married:
1891: RG12; Piece: 1336; Folio 114; Page 44 -
Joseph H Hemmings 36 - married bn c1855 Mile End Town, occ: wood worker
Margaret Hemmings 35
Margaret L J Hemmings 11
Ethel F A Hemmings 5
Christ W J Hemmings 3

Baptism of son Joseph:
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Joseph Henry Hemmings
Baptism Date: 6 Jan 1856
Father's name: Joseph Hemmings
Mother's name: Jane Hemmings
Parish or Poor Law Union: Whitechapel St Mary
image says address is 7 Duncan St - Joseph (father) occ is ??? architect


Many thanks in advance, Sue

ElizabethHerts
24-10-10, 09:26
In 1851 it looks as though she is at St Botolph, Aldgate:


STANDRING, Benjn Head Widower M 69 1782 Wine Merchant London Middlesex
STANDRING, John Son Unmarried M 28 1823 Wine Merchant London Middlesex
STANDRING, Harriet Daughter Unmarried F 38 1813 London Middlesex
STANDRING, Fanny Daughter Unmarried F 20 1831 London Middlesex
MONTAGNE, Anna Servant Unmarried F 51 1800 Domestic Servt Tisbury Wiltshire
PANNEL, Jane Servant Unmarried F 28 1823 Domestic Servt Barston (sic) Hants
POBGEE, Susan Servant Unmarried F 26 1825 Domestic Servt East Grinstead Sussex


RG number: HO107 Piece: 1524 Folio: 213 Page: 7

London Address:
152, Minories, Saint Botolph Aldgate, London County:
Middlesex

Crafty Sue
24-10-10, 09:34
Thanks Elizabeth, yes that does look like her :) which puts her roughly in the right part of the country for the other possible sighting of her.

Sue

Crafty Sue
24-10-10, 09:50
I've just found a marriage for Joseph Hemmings to Jane Boltt - widow - father named as George Paunell (sic) - look very promising, off to investigate further..

Jane Pannell married Henry Boltt 22 Jun 1851 St George the Martyr, Henry died 1853 - which all ties in

But can anyone find Jane and her two children in 1861 please?



Sue

ElizabethHerts
24-10-10, 10:03
This is the possible marriage, Sue:

Henry Boltt
Jane Pannell
St George Southwark
Jun qr 1851

Crafty Sue
24-10-10, 10:11
Many thanks for that Elizabeth, just found that too in the Ancestry London collection..

Still trying to find her in 1861 though, tried all sorts of search combinations :(

ElizabethHerts
24-10-10, 10:14
Sue, I'm sure you know that there are quite a few gaps in the 1861 census, especially for London.

Crafty Sue
24-10-10, 10:19
No, I didn't know that Elizabeth. The only ancestors I have in London are a few that moved there, so not that good with London records. Hmm, looks like Jane & family are not going to be found then.

Many thanks for looking at this Elizabeth.

Sue

ElizabethHerts
24-10-10, 10:25
Hi Sue, this is from the FMP website. I just include information for the London area.

"1861 missing pages
Missing pieces of the 1861 census
There are a number of enumeration books missing, or parts of enumeration books (usually missing start or finish), from the 1861 census. Below is a list of the books affected that we know of, both those missing in their entirety (M) and those which are incomplete (I) in the National Archives.

145 Middlesex Islington Islington East (2) Islington M
217 Middlesex West London West London North (1) St Bartholomew the Less I
219 Middlesex West London West London South (2) Barnard's Inn M
220 Middlesex London City London City SW (1) St Augustine Watling Street I
229 Middlesex London City London City NE (5) St Christopher le Stock I
407 Kent Greenwich Woolwich Arsenal (6) Woolwich M"

Crafty Sue
24-10-10, 10:28
Thanks for that information Elizabeth. I'll make a note of that for future reference.
Sue