Stannards help please

[kiterunner]

National Probate Calendar entry says that letters of administration of the estate of Mary Bowskill formerly of 26 but late of 52 High Street Camden Town, Middlesex, widow, who died 20 Dec 1868 were granted 6 Mar 1869 to Catherine Jane Stannard, (wife of William Thomas Stannard lithographer) of 7 Poland Street, Oxford Street, Middlesex, the daughter and only next of kin.

Marriage Jul-Sep 1840 Bloomsbury between William Thomas Stannard and Catherine Jane Bowskill.

Baptism 18 Nov 1825 St Mary at Lambeth of Catherine Jane, daughter of George and Mary Bowskill of Regent Street, traveller. Her date of birth isn't given but her parents got married 29 July 1823 so maybe she was 2 by the time they got her baptised? Or maybe even born before their marriage?

Catherine Jane Stannard's death was registered Jul-Sep 1887 Pancras age 66, so she may have been born as early as 1820 or 1821.

Administration with the will on William Thomas Stannard's estate was granted 22 Feb 1896 to Selah Stannard widow. He died 23 Nov 1895 Marylebone age 79. His address given as 7 Poland Street, Soho (the same address given for Catherine in 1869).

William Thomas Stannard married Selah Sands Jul-Sep 1887 Marylebone.

BUT - this is the only census I've found either William or Catherine on yet, and needless to say, it's Catherine I'd like to find!

1871
No 2 St Johns Hill Terrace, Battersea
William T Stannard Head Mar 55 Printer Middlesex St Pancras
Selah Stannard Wife Mar 39 Do's Wife Norfolk Norwich
Emily P Stannard Daur 4 Mo Surrey Battersea
Thomas Sands Brother in Law Unm 39 Publican Norfolk Norwich
+ some servants

Can anyone find Catherine on any census from 1841 to 1881, please? With or without William?

[Merry]

Is that the 1891, not 1871?

There's a Wm Stannard lithographer on the 1881 in Camberwell but he's only 32. Might be the son of the other one? His wife is Emily G, but they are boarders, so not showing as husband and wife.

[kiterunner]

It is 1871, Merry; William was born about 1815-16.

[ElizabethHerts]

They are elusive, aren't they?

However, I found this by googling:
Charborough Park
http://www.heatons-of-tisbury.co.uk/dorset.htm

BTW, I think that 7 Poland Street was the business address and they probably lived elsewhere, especially as you found William in Battersea. I did an address search and found people living there (no Stannards) but these were probably people living upstairs above the business premises.

[Phoenix]

Given how young she was at marriage, this might well be her in 1841:

HO107 piece 741 folio 5/11 page 14 in which case, William isn't with her but she's living with his family.

There is also a Catherine in Poplar living with alternately a Thomas and a William in 1851 and 1861. His occupation is farrier/shipwright. Their ages wobble violently so it may be two or even three couples with Stannards married to Catherines.

[ElizabethHerts]

It seems that Stannard & Dixon later became "Stannard & Son". Did William and Catherine have a son?

http://www.google.co.uk/#q=%22Stannard+and+Dixon%22&hl=en&biw=985&bih=492&rlz=1R2ADRA_enGB358&ei=ZKqhTNS4L82a4Abr_tTVAw&start=20&sa=N&fp=98906b51ab5d9d97

[ElizabethHerts]

This might be William Thomas Stannard here:

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/displaycataloguedetails.asp?CATLN=7&CATID=-2989498&FullDetails=True&j=1&Gsm=2008-08-08

It seems to be a Chancery case.

[kiterunner]

It seems that Stannard & Dixon later became "Stannard & Son". Did William and Catherine have a son?


That's what I would love to find out! Thanks for the info about the business address; I had been thinking it was probably a business address but it's good to be sure.

I saw that family in 1841 too, Phoenix, and I'm wondering if it's her or not. But there is a baptism for William Thomas Stannard in 1815 with parents Thomas and Lydia, so I don't think that's his family in 1841.

[kiterunner]

Ooh, I was posting at the same time as you, Elizabeth. That looks interesting.

[kiterunner]

Stannard v Harrison seems to be some kind of copyright case so it's probably not going to help me find Catherine.

[kiterunner]

Oh, what? This is also the 1871 census:

132 Camden St., St Pancras
William Thos Stannard Head Mar 52 Lithographer & Printer Middlesex St Pancras Deaf
William Do Son Unm 22 Do Do Do Do
Sarah Ruth Do Daug Unm 21 Do Do
+ servant

So I seem to have William Thomas Stannard twice on the same census (although the one with Selah isn't listed as deaf) and still no sign of Catherine! I wonder whether those children are hers or not?

[kiterunner]

Ooh, it looks as if Sarah Ruth was somewhat older than 21 in 1871 as her birth was registered in 1843, and now look what I've found in 1851!

8 Church Row, St Pancras
Mary Bowshill (sic) Widow 55(? or possibly 35?) Annuitant Marylebone Middlesex
Mary Ann Stannard Visitor 9 Scholar St Pancras Do
Sarah Do Do 7 Scholar Do Do

I reckon Mary sr is 55 and is Catherine's mother as she would be the right age and was born in Marylebone. But where is Catherine?!

[kiterunner]

Hmm, just found a marriage in the LMA records - 22 Dec 1850, St George Bloomsbury, Henry Herbert Stroudley married Ruth Stannard. Henry's occupation Lithographer / Printer, Ruth's father William Stannard, postman. Both give their address as 20 Hart Street. The witnesses! The second one is definitely Catherine Jane Stannard, and does anyone else think the first one could be a scrawled Wm Thos Stannard? In which case hopefully they (Wm Thos and Catherine Jane) should still be together for the 1851 census?

[kiterunner]

At last, managed to find William and Catherine together - in 1861. Listed as Stannand on ancestry.

25 Upper Albany Street, Pancras
William Stannard Head 48 Printer St Pancras Midx
Jane Do W 42 Do Do
Maryann Do Daur 18 Do Do
Sarah Do Daur 17 Do Do

Thanks for your help, everyone!]

(Edit - and I've found William and Catherine in 1841 now, at Dears Place, Marylebone, with Catherine calling herself Jane on that one too).