Trying to find arrival in the UK

[BlueSavannah]

Hi,

Ive spent the past few hours trying, unsuccessfully, to find the arrival in the UK of a Sextus Gisbert Van Os.

I have him on the 1901 census in Fulham, London calling himself just Gisbert with wife Adele and two sons, Herbert & Mark. On the 1911 census, he is still in Fulham with his wife and two more children, Ella & Jack. The 1911 says that Sextus & Adele have been married 13 years.

Sextus was born 1865c in the Netherlands and Adele 1877 in Germany; both Dutch subjects. I cannot find a marriage for them in the UK but all four of their children were born in Fulham.

I would really appreciate a second pair of eyes on trying to find this couple arriving in the UK if anyone has the time :)

Many thanks in advance

[kiterunner]

If they came from the Netherlands or Germany then it is unlikely there will be a record of their arrival in the UK, sorry.

[BlueSavannah]

ah ok, I am sorry, I hadnt realised it didnt cover arrivals from those two countries :(

[kiterunner]

This won't really help,but have you seen this photo:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/simon_p_white/2628099206/

[kiterunner]

And you probably know this already, but the Dutch spelling of his middle name seems to be Gijsbert or Gijsbertus.

[BlueSavannah]

I have seen the photo, I found it really impressive. This is my work colleague's family that I am trying to help him with. He thinks it was his father's cousin who took that photo.

The Gijsbertus spelling would make sense as Sextus left a will and his middle name was spelt almost the same as that on the probate index.

Colleague thinks that Adele's maiden name was Hauptfleisch but that hasnt helped me at all find a marriage that probably took place in Holland.

[kiterunner]

There are some Dutch BMDs on the FamilySearch Record Search pilot site which haven't been indexed yet but you can browse the images:

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=allCollections&r=1

(scroll down to Netherlands)

[BlueSavannah]

thanks for that link, fingers crossed something might be on there :)

[Mary from Italy]

There are no passenger lists for nearby countries as far as I know, but Ancestry does have a database of Alien Arrivals, 1810-1811, 1826-1869 which does include people from nearby countries, although it's a bit hit and miss what you find, and they don't give much information.

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1587

I can't see Sextus, but there is an S Os, merchant, arriving from Holland in 1855, who I suppose might be related to him (no idea if it's a common Dutch name).

[Mary from Italy]

This should be useful:

Researching Your Dutch Ancestors

http://genealogy.about.com/library/authors/ucklaassen1a.htm

[Mary from Italy]

Just checking the Genlias database:

http://www.genlias.nl/nl/searchDetail.jsp?val=0&xtr=16329536&vgr=3

There are 4 marriages for a Gijsbertus or Gijsbert van Os between 1880 and 1899, but to the wrong brides. However, the database isn't complete; this is the coverage page:

http://www.genlias.nl/nl/page16.jsp

I suppose it's also possible that they married in Germany, where she came from.

The nearest possible birth for a Gijsbert van Os is in 1868, but he married the wrong bride.

Can't find any records at all on that site for people with the Christian name Sextus, so I wonder if it's spelled differently in Dutch?

I've also checked the C of E and non-conformist marriages on Ancestry, and not found anything.

[BlueSavannah]

Hi Mary
Ive been really busy this weekend so only just seen your replies which are very much appreciated.

I will take a look through all the links tomorrow. The S Os looks like there could be a chance of a connection. Same occupation.

I think Van Os is a fairly common name in Holland. Ive seen it often written as Vanos.

Regards