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JessBow
12-09-10, 14:12
Who told him I was interested in this lark? lol!

Births Dec 1931
Moore John C MMn James Newmarket 3b 596


His ****her had something to do with Bletchley park, and someone, somewhere was an undertaker.
Oh, and his father was Irish!
Mother was callled Edna
Uh Huh!

Merry
12-09-10, 14:24
PMSL! Well, Jess.....I presume he is still alive lol! (and therefore we have to remove his details unless he told you you could tell them to us?!!!!!)

There's no obvious Edna James marrying a Mr Moore that I can see at the mo. Maybe they were both Irish?

JessBow
12-09-10, 14:26
Oh yes, its fine. he's very much still alive and giving me a hard time on a regular basis, but no he's cool

I cant find his parents marriage either

Merry
12-09-10, 14:39
Jess, try and find out if he knows when either of his parents died and where they lived. You might have to prod a bit by the sound of it. Or is he one of those who wants to show you you won't find anything because he won't tell? :rolleyes: I bet he knows his dad's first name!

Merry
12-09-10, 14:46
You could ask his siblings names maybe? I bet he was an only child.....

JessBow
12-09-10, 15:30
Well, he thinks some neph somewhere is back to 1841, he wanted to get a bit further ( he did lol!)

How have we drawn a blinking blank already!????
I did ask when his mother was born - 1900 but didnt ask where.... DOH!

Merry
12-09-10, 15:38
Well, maybe his mother was previously married so her wedding to Mr Moore would be in a different surname. Maybe Edna wasn't her first forename or was a nickname?

I'm sure there would be no problem if he would just tell you a bit more detail. Some of these would be good:

Dad's first name(s)
When and where mum and dad died
Their birthdays
Any siblings for John
Order of siblings
Any half siblings

Merry
12-09-10, 16:04
Check it's def Edna and not Emma, could you?!

I can do you John Moore to Emma James in 1931 at Newport Pagnell. (just thought he might be named for his father?)

JessBow
12-09-10, 18:10
I saw them, I wont see him now until wednesday, i see him quite enough at work, so wont be ringing him on my days off.

I guess they will just have to wait

anne fraser
14-09-10, 16:35
Jess many years ago I helped with a research project trying to find a link between alzheimer's and down's syndrome. Part of it involved trying to work out a family tree for patients with alzheimer's who had a relative with Down's syndrome.

It was not uncommon for people to mix up their siblings and children. Does your chap have any old photos you could ask about?

JessBow
16-09-10, 15:25
He's perfectly sound in his head, its his arthritis that does him in.

I think thats his parents marriage - newport pagnell would be the right reg area too.

he was an only one.

So what about that Emma James as a child, should be living in Bletchley, He says she was born 1900
( his father WAS John, John James)

got to be.....

Births Mar 1900 (>99%)
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James Emma Newport P. 3a 873
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wonder if he'd recognise

HOUSEHOLD JAMES AGNES F 1869 42 Newport Pagnell Buckinghamshire
HOUSEHOLD JAMES EDGAR JOHN M 1875 36 Newport Pagnell Buckinghamshire
HOUSEHOLD JAMES JULIA F 1903 8 Newport Pagnell Buckinghamshire
HOUSEHOLD JAMES ROBERT M 1899 12 Newport Pagnell Buckinghamshire

samesizedfeet
16-09-10, 15:30
there's this one:

Name: Emma James
Year of Registration: 1900
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Newport Pagnell
County: Buckinghamshire, Northamptonshire
Volume: 3a
Page: 873

samesizedfeet
16-09-10, 15:32
and this looks like a match to the above on 1901

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?htx=view&r=5538&dbid=7814&iid=BKMRG13_1359_1361-0284&fn=Emma&ln=James&st=r&ssrc=&pid=7898884

samesizedfeet
16-09-10, 15:35
erm..... if he was an only child who is the nephew that has got back to the 1840s on his line related to?

JessBow
16-09-10, 15:36
his wife's probably. no idea!

I dont have ancestry, sorry

samesizedfeet
16-09-10, 15:39
ah, okay. I shall transcribe for you - back in in a jiffy

samesizedfeet
16-09-10, 15:45
1901

Bletchley Green, Bletchley, Bucks

Edgar James Head 26 LNW Sh????er (word 'Points' written above) born Blecthley
AGnes James wife 30 born Long Compton, Warwickhire
Robert James son 2 born Fenny Stratford, Bucks
Emma James daur 12 mos born Fenny Stratford, Bucks




1911

School House, Bletchley, Bucks

Edgar John James 36 Porter** b: Bletchley
Agnes James 42 Uncertified Teacher Elementary School b: Long Compton
Robert James 12 b: Fenny Stratford
Emma James 11 b: Fenny Stratford
Julia James 8 b: Bletchley


married 14 years, 4 children born, 4 children still alive

**image says Railway Servant which is crossed out then Porter employer: L&N Railway

JessBow
16-09-10, 15:50
Sounds good, he twitered about someone being a teacher, so maybe we are onto something

samesizedfeet
16-09-10, 15:51
ooooh - goodie - shall I carry on then?

In a hotel room in York and a touch bored so it would be a welcome distraction

samesizedfeet
16-09-10, 15:53
Marriage:

William Charles Brown
Emily Franklin
Agnes Hunt
Edgar John James

Year of Registration: 1896
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Chipping Norton
County: Gloucestershire, Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Volume: 3a
Page: 1597

JessBow
16-09-10, 15:55
2. AGNES HUNT - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 20 SEP 1868 Long Compton, Warwick, England

3. AGNES CLARK - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 09 JUN 1850 Long Compton, Warwick, England

4. AGNES TENNANT - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 08 MAY 1870 Long Compton, Warwick, England

5. AGNES LOUISA EAGLES - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 06 NOV 1864 Long Compton, Warwick, England

Agnes Hunt or Agnes tennat? whatda y reckon?

Cross posted (HUNT)

samesizedfeet
16-09-10, 15:55
1891
RG12; Piece: 1149; Folio 105; Page 2
Green End, Fenny Stratford, Bucks

John James 55 Head Carpenter b: Bletchley
Sarah James 49 wife b: Wavedon?? Bucks
Agnes James 19 b: Blecthley
Edgar J James 16 Coachman (Groom) b: Blecthley
Albert W James 13 b: Blecthley
Walter H James 8 b: Blecthley
Fanny M James 4 b: Blecthley

JessBow
16-09-10, 15:56
AGNES HUNT Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 20 SEP 1868 Long Compton, Warwick, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: WILLIAM HUNT Family
Mother: ELIZABETH

samesizedfeet
16-09-10, 15:58
1881

'In The Village", Bletchley

John James 44 Carpenter b: Bletchley
Sarah James 38 b: Bletchley
Francis J. James 18 Carpenter b: Bletchley
Jesse James 16 b: Bletchley
Elizabeth James 13 b: Bletchley
Agnes Mary James 9 b: Bletchley
Edgar J. James 6 b: Bletchley
Albert W. James 3 b: Bletchley
Denis A. James 1 b: Bletchley

samesizedfeet
16-09-10, 16:01
1891

Long Compton. Warks

William Hunt 57 Blacksimth b; Little Wolford??, Warks
Elizabeth Hunt 53 b; Little Wolford??, Warks
Agnes Hunt 22 Assistant School Mistress b: Long Compton
Sarah A Hunt 18 b: Long Compton
George Hunt 16 Assistant Blacksmith b: Long Compton
Julia Hunt 15 b: Long Compton
Albert Hunt 13 b: Long Compton

samesizedfeet
16-09-10, 16:03
1881

53 The Hollows, Long Compton

William Hunt 47 b; Little Wolford??, Warks Blacksmith
Elizabeth Hunt 43 b; Little Wolford??, Warks
Isabella Hunt 14 b: Long Compton
Agnes Hunt 12 b: Long Compton
Emma Hunt 10 b: Long Compton
Sarah A. Hunt 8 b: Long Compton
George Hunt 6 b: Long Compton
Julia Hunt 5 b: Long Compton
Albert Hunt 3 b: Long Compton

samesizedfeet
16-09-10, 16:05
1871

Hunts cottage, Long Compton

William Hunt 37 b: Wolford Blacksmith
Elizabeth Hunt 33 b: Wolford
William Hunt 6 b: Long Compton
Isabella Hunt 4 b: Long Compton
Agnes Hunt 2 b: Long Compton
Emma Hunt 9 Months b: Long Compton

JessBow
16-09-10, 16:06
Going back to #22, are we looking at re-marriage?

Marriages Dec 1861 (>99%)
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Allen Sarah Newport P 3a 787
Claridge Sarah Newport P 3a 787 <<<
Dickens George Newport P. 3a 787
James John Newport P 3a 787 <<

Or have I lost the plot? Shurrup!

samesizedfeet
16-09-10, 16:08
From Family Search Beta:

Groom's Name William Hunt

Bride's Name Elizabeth Hall

Marriage Date 17 Dec 1863
Marriage Place Wolford,Warwick,England

Indexing Project (Batch) Number M02487-3
System Origin England-ODM
Source Film Number 991477

samesizedfeet
16-09-10, 16:13
1861

William Hunt 63 b: Long Compton Blacksmith
Diana Hunt 56 b: Wolford
William Hunt 27 b: Wolford
Joseph Hunt 22 b: Wolford
Richard Hunt 18 b: Wolford
Sarah Hunt 20 b: Wolford School Mistress
Henry Hunt 15 b: (blank but prob just missing its 'do') Ag Lab



That's us back to 1797 then - do we get a prize?

JessBow
16-09-10, 16:15
WILLIAM HUNT

Christening: 11 FEB 1798 Long Compton, Warwick, England

Parents:
Father: JOHN HUNT Family
Mother: ANN

Yes, I'll tell him he owes you a prize!

samesizedfeet
16-09-10, 16:16
1851

Little Wolford, Warwickshire

William Hunt 52 B: Long Compton Blacksmith
Diana Hunt 46 B: Little Wolford
William Hunt 17 B: Little Wolford Blacksmith
Emma Hunt 14 B: Little Wolford
Joseph Hunt 12 B: Little Wolford
Sarah Hunt 10 B: Little Wolford
Richard Hunt 8 B: Little Wolford
Henry Hunt 5 B: Little Wolford

samesizedfeet
16-09-10, 16:20
1841

WIlliam Hunt 40 Blacksmith Yes
Diana HUnt 35 yes
Ann Hunt 15 yes
Elizth Hunt 11 yes
William Hunt 7 yes
Emma Hunt 4 yes
Joseph HUnt 2 yes
Sarah Hunt 7 mos yes


Then in what looks like a separate household but only 3 people down the list (head William Faulks)

Thomas Hunt 13 Servant yes

samesizedfeet
16-09-10, 16:22
1841

WIlliam Hunt 40 Blacksmith Yes
Diana HUnt 35 yes
Ann Hunt 15 yes
Elizth Hunt 11 yes
William Hunt 7 yes
Emma Hunt 4 yes
Joseph HUnt 2 yes
Sarah Hunt 7 mos yes


Then in what looks like a separate household but only 3 people down the list (head William Faulks)

Thomas Hunt 13 Servant yes



oooooooh oh oh - and Elizabeth Hall, Willian jr's future wife is living next door in the other direction I think!! Dashing out for a ciggy - back in 5 with transcript

JessBow
16-09-10, 16:36
I have to go to Brownies.
Carry on to your hearts content.

Dib dib dib, dob dob dob

samesizedfeet
16-09-10, 16:54
1841

John Hall 30 NO Miller
Ann Hall 30 yes
George Hall 13 yes
Thomas Hall 1 yes
William Hall 8 yes
Elizath Hall 6 yes
John Hall 4 yes
Victoria ? A Hall 2 yes
Frederick Hall 1 yes

samesizedfeet
16-09-10, 17:05
Struggling to find that Hall family after 1841. Can't see them as a family group but there are a few possible strays suggesting they may have been split up.