A woman I know little about! Mary Williams

[Nell]

This is where common Welsh names and a reluctance to spend money on certs that I can't be sure are the right ones leaves gaps in my knowledge!

Anyway

Mary Williams was born in Taibach, Glamorgan, Wales abt 1841.

1841 - not found

1851 - not found

1861
Margam, Glamorgan
Thomas Williams Taibach head
Mary Williams 20 daur
Mary Evans b 1861 Taibach granddaughter
[I think this is my Mary with her illegitimate first daughter]

Marriage
27 Oct 1862, Llangynwyd, Glamorgan, to John Evans.

1871
10 Llwydarth Row, Llangynwyd, Glamorgan
John Evans 31 b. Monknash
Mary Evans 30 b. Taibach
Mary Evans daur 10 b. Taibach
Jenkin L. Evans son 9 b. Taibach
Thomas Evans son 5 b. Maesteg
John Evans son 4 b. Maesteg
Edward Evans son 1 b. Maesteg
Thomas Williams b Taibach 58 boarder [I think this is Mary's father]
Lewis Williams b Taibach 25 boarder [probably Mary's brother]


1881
96 Garth Road, Cwmdu, Maesteg, Glamorgan
John Evans 42 coal miner
Mary Evans 42 wife
Mary daur 20 dressmaker
Thomas son 16 miner
William 12, Edward 11, David 7, John 5, Lewis 3 all at school, Rees 1


Link to gt grandfather: http://www.genealogistsforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=4636&highlight=Jenkin+Evans

[kiterunner]

So does this mean you don't have the John Evans / Mary Williams marriage certificate just to double-check that her father was Thomas?

[kiterunner]

The likely marriage ref is Oct-Dec 1862 Neath vol 11a p 664.

1851 census:
Taibach B Cotton Row
Thomas Williams Head Mar 37 Collier Margam Glamorgan
Thomas Williams Son U 13 Coppermill Man Do Do
Mary Williams Daur U 10 Scholar Do Do
Margaret Williams Daur U 7 Do Do Do
Lewis Williams Son U 5 do Do Do
Ann Williams Daur U 3 Infant Do Do
Mary Williams Wife Mar 34 Collier's Wife Do Do

There is a line drawn to link Thomas and Mary senior saying "husband & wife".

HO107/2462 Folio 55 Page 37

[kiterunner]

And 1841:
Constant, Hamlet of Havod, Margam
Thomas William 25 Miner Y
Mary Do 20 Y
Thomas Do 3 Y
Mary Do 1 mth Y
Mary David 10 Y

HO107/1422 Book 19 Enumeration District 8 Folio 23 Page 12

[kiterunner]

Given that she is 1 month old on the 1841 census, this is her likely birth registration:
Apr-Jun 1841 Williams, Mary Neath XXVI 483.
But there are three possibles in the Jul-Sep quarter, two with surname William and one Williams. So yes, it could get expensive trying to get certificates for this family!

And then just to be confusing, FamilySearch Record Search has the baptism of a Mary Williams at Margam, parents Thomas and Mary, but the date is given as 30 Nov 1840. There are likely baptisms on there for Thomas jr and Margaret (also a Henry in 1834) so I wonder if the year is wrong for Mary's?

[kiterunner]

Have you found the Evans family in 1891, 1901 and 1911, Nell?

[Nell]

Hi KiteRunner

You've been busy! I'm afraid I lost interest in this family as they are so difficult and have been absorbed in new leads in my Norfolk side, but thanks for your efforts. I'll look through what you've found and digest it!

I don't have the Evans' later on, though I do have their son Jenkin Evans. I think I must have decided John & Mary had died and couldn't face working out which were their deaths in the indexes!!!!

[Nell]

Think this is the marriage, from familysearch:

John Evans
Event: Marriage
Event Date: 27 Oct 1862
Event Place: , Llangynwyd, Glamorgan, Wales
Gender: Male
Age:
Marital Status: Single
Father: Jenkin Evans
Spouse: Mary Williams
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Father: Thomas Williams
Digital Folder Number: 004174056
Image Number:

[ElizabethHerts]

FMP have the marriage too, for the record:

Groom's Forenames:John
Groom's Surname:Evans
Groom's Parish:Llangynwyd
Event Year:1862
Event Month:Oct
Event Day:27
Event Type:Marriage
Page:292
Place / Parish:Llangynwyd
county:Glamorganshire
Bride's Forenames:Mary
Bride's Surname:Williams
Bride's Parish:Llangynwyd
Record source:Glamorgan banns transcripts
Data provider:Welsh Archive Services / Gwasanaethau Archifau Cymru

[Nell]

A belated thanks, Elizabeth!