Mary Ann Flowers, (MMFM)

[Sue at the seaside]

Name - "official" name and what they were known as
Mary Ann Flowers

Date and place of birth
7th June 1816 Shoreditch, Middlesex

Names of parents
Samuel Flowers and Ann Davies

Date and place of baptism - if applicable
26th June 1816, St Leonards Church, Shoreditch

Details of each of his or her marriages - if any
John Cox, 21st June 1847, St John the Baptist, Hoxton London

Occupation(s) - if any
Beer shop keeper, general servant (in a pub)

Addresses where they lived (including county if in UK) - and please list which censuses you have or haven't found him/her on.

1841-43 Paul St, St Leonard Shoreditch, Middlesex
1851- 42 Spicer St, Stepney, London
1861- Whitechapel, London
1871-
1881-212 Richmond Rd Duke of Marlboro, St John Hackney, London
1891- 7 Chalgrove Road, Hackney
1901-

Date, place and cause of death
Possible, Dec 1898, Hackney, London
Date and place of burial / cremation.
Details of will / administration of their estate - if applicable
Memorial inscription - if any

[maggie_4_7]

Could this be her in 1881


http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?htx=view&r=5538&dbid=7572&iid=LNDRG11_295_297-0063&fn=Mary&ln=Cox&st=r&ssrc=&pid=14478186

Mary is working in a pub had John Cox died by then?

[ElizabethHerts]

Sue, this looks like her baptism from the Family Search pilot site:

Name: Mary Ann Flower
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 26 Jun 1816
Baptism/Christening Place: SAINT LEONARDS,SHOREDITCH,LONDON,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 07 Jun 1816
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Samuel Flower
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Ann
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C04080-3
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 551583
Reference Number:
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

[Sue at the seaside]

Thanks for that, I'm sure it is her, still working in pubs! I don't have a death for hubby, but I know he was dead by 1891.

I know that pub, how odd!

And Elizabeth, thanks for that baptism, I was about to have hunt for that. This certainly helps focus the mind on one individual, a fantastic concept.

[ElizabethHerts]

A brother?
Name: James Flowers
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 22 Aug 1813
Baptism/Christening Place: SAINT LEONARDS,SHOREDITCH,LONDON,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 31 Jul 1813
Birthplace:
Death Date: 16 Oct 1816
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Samuel Flowers
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Ann
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C04080-3
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 551583
Reference Number:
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

A sister?
Name: Elisabeth Flowers
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 28 Jan 1811
Baptism/Christening Place: SAINT LEONARDS,SHOREDITCH,LONDON,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 10 Jan 1811
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Samuel Flowers
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Ann
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C04080-3
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 551583
Reference Number:
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

[maggie_4_7]

If she had a sister Elizabeth I think she married a Callow could this be her and is Samuel and Ann dead by then?

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?htx=view&r=5538&dbid=8978&iid=MDXHO107_708_709-0635&fn=Mary&ln=Flowers&st=r&ssrc=&pid=15357922

It's a pub her brother in law Thomas Callow is a publican and she is listed as sister in law.

edit: don't think its her says N for not born in county...

[maggie_4_7]

The baptism for Mary Ann Flower/s that ElizabethHerts found is on Ancestry

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?htx=View&r=5538&dbid=1558&iid=31281_A101335-00133&fn=Mary+Ann&ln=Flower&st=r&ssrc=&pid=665554

In fact there's three Mary, James and Joseph - Elizabeth isn't coming up because it was 1811 and the search engine only starts at 1813.

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&f3=&f4=Flower&=&f16=&f17=&rg_f18__date=1816&rs_f18__date=10&f23=Hackney&f19=&f9=Samuel&f13=Ann&f24=&gskw=&db=lmabirths&ti=5538&ti.si=0&gl=&gss=rfs&gst=&so=3