Joseph Stroud MMMF (OHs)

[Gert in Oz]

Name - "official" name and what they were known as
Joseph Stroud

Date and place of birth
20 Feb 1842 Idstone Berkshire

Names of parents
William Stroud and Martha Stratford

Date and place of baptism - if applicable
Not found

Details of each of his or her marriages - if any
18 Oct 1862 Highworth Wiltshire to Esther Painter

Occupation(s) - if any
Boot and Shoe maker

Addresses where they lived (including county if in UK) - and please list which censuses you have or haven't found him/her on.
1851- Possibly as nephew of Dennis Woodward in Longcot Berkshire
1861- 6 Alma Terrace Swindon....as Stroud Joseph
1871-Lower Town Wanborough Wiltshire
1881-22 Windsor Terrace Rodbourne Cheney Wiltshire
1891-119 Princes Street Derby Derbyshire
1901-119 Princes Street Derby

Date, place and cause of death
4th Q 1907 Derby

Date and place of burial / cremation.
Not known

Details of will / administration of their estate - if applicable
Not known

Memorial inscription - if any
Not known

[kiterunner]

Presumably you haven't got his marriage certificate yet to check his father's name?

[Gert in Oz]

No i haven`t Kate, i really must buy more certs for this side of the family instead of concentrating on my side.

[Gert in Oz]

Have now received the marriage cert and Josephs father was William Stroud, occupation Labourer

[Merry]

I don't know if eventually knowing more about 'uncle' Denis would help? I found him in 1841 and it would seem his wife (if she is his wife) was called Ann(e):

HO107; Piece 27; Book: 13; Civil Parish: Shrivenham; County: Berkshire; Enumeration District: 7; Folio: 4; Page: 2; Line: 8

[Merry]

This would be Denis's marriage, but everything hangs on whether that Joseph Stroud is yours in 1851! I've not looked at the later census records for him to see what he gave as his birthplace then.

Groom's Name: Dennis Woodars
Bride's Name: Anna Maria Stroud
Marriage Date: 06 Nov 1838
Marriage Place: Longcott, Berkshire, England
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00154-2
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 1040529
Collection: England Marriages, 1538–1973

[Merry]

These are the children of a John and Elizabeth Stroud. Anna Maria may well be the wife of Denis Woodard:

1. JOHN STROUD
Gender: Male Christening: 25 DEC 1821 Compton Beauchamp, Berkshire, England

2. SARAH STROUD
Gender: Female Christening: 23 MAR 1817 Compton Beauchamp, Berkshire, England

3. WILLIAM STROUD
Gender: Male Christening: 01 AUG 1819 Compton Beauchamp, Berkshire, England

4. ANNA MARIA STROUD
Gender: Female Christening: 10 SEP 1815 Compton Beauchamp, Berkshire, England

5. JOSEPH STROUD
Gender: Male Christening: 27 JUN 1813 Compton Beauchamp, Berkshire, England

In which case William would be the father of your Joseph.

This looks like William (still unmarried) with his sister Sarah and father John in 1841:

HO107; Piece 27; Book: 7; Civil Parish: Compton Beauchamp; County: Berkshire; Enumeration District: 5; Folio: 5; Page: 5; Line: 22

Possible marriage for Wiliam:

Marriages Dec 1841
STRATFORD Martha Faringdon 6 311
STROUD William Faringdon 6 311

and possible birth for Joseph:

Births Mar 1842
Stroud Joseph Faringdon 6 196

[Merry]

I've just looked at the later census records and I see for the first three he's said idstone or Ashbury and Idstone is in the parish of Ashbury so that's all looking fairly hopeful!

[Merry]

Thgere's a William and Martha Stroud in Reading in 1851 and I wondered if they were your couple. I don't think they are though, as apart from William not being born in the right area, their 'first' child is William T Stroud b Reading. From the birth reg his middle name is Titcombe and there's a marriage for a Wm Stroud to a Martha Titcombe in Marylebone in October 1846, so very likely a different couple.

I can't as yet find your Wm and Martha anywhere, but if they moved from the Faringdon Reg District then either or both might have died/remarried etc. I've not looked at the NBI to see if this area is covered at all.

[Merry]

Here's your missing 1861 census:

RG9; Piece: 1272; Folio: 90; Page: 11

[Gert in Oz]

Wow, Merry you have been busy, i will check those out and send for that birth cert.

Thank you.

[Gert in Oz]

Here's your missing 1861 census:

RG9; Piece: 1272; Folio: 90; Page: 11

No wonder i couldn`t find this one, his name is the wrong way round.