Sarah Edwards

[maggie_4_7]

My OHs mother's mother's mother's mother

Name:
Sarah Edwards

Date and place of birth:
20th April 1818 Tylsen Street, Bethnal Green, London, England

Names of parents:
John Edwards and Mary ?

Date and place of baptism:
31st May 1818 at St Matthew's Church, Bethnal Green, London, England

Details of each of his or her marriages:
Marriage to William Joseph Tyler on 27th January 1851 at St Bartholomew's Church, Bethnal Green, London, England (10 years after their first child was born)

Occupation(s):
Dress Maker

Addresses where they lived (including county if in UK):

Woverley Street, Bethnal Green, London, England - 1841 Census
Class: HO107; Piece 691; Book: 6; Enumeration District: 11; Folio: 11; Page: 14; Line: 18; GSU roll: 438807.

2 Hare Street, Bethnal Green, London, England - 1851 Census
Class: HO107; Piece: 1542; Folio: 9; Page: 11; GSU roll: 174772.

3 Pelham Street, Stepney, London, England - 1861 Census
Class: RG9; Piece: 268; Folio: 44; Page: 30; GSU roll: 542603.

1 Spital Court, Spitalfields, London, England - 1871 Census
Class: RG10; Piece: 513; Folio: 5; Page: 3; GSU roll: 823381.

64 Fuller Street, Bethnal Green, London, England - 1881 Census
Class: RG11; Piece: 425; Folio: 113; Page: 25; GSU roll: 1341092.

64 Fuller Street, Bethnal Green, London, England - 1891 Census
Class: RG12; Piece: 265; Folio 209; Page 43; GSU roll: 6095375.

48 Lessada Street, Bethnal Green, London, England - 1901 Census
Class: RG13; Piece: 293; Folio: 159; Page: 30.

Date, place and cause of death:
15 November 1903 at the Infirmary (assume it was the Bethnal Green Workhouse/Infirmary latterly Bethnal Green Hospital until it was closed in 1986) in Bethnal Green, London, England - cause of death senile decay

Date and place of burial / cremation:
Not known

Details of will / administration of their estate:
Not known

Memorial inscription:
Not known

[Merry]

Best fit?

Deaths Dec 1903
Tyler Sarah 85 Bethnal Green 1c 133

and would this, below, give you her maiden name and help you find the family in 1861 (if the area isn't a missing one!!)?

Births Mar 1861
Tyler Rachel Whitechapel 1c 378

[Merry]

Here they are in 1861 at 3 Pelham St Stepney:

RG9; Piece: 268; Folio: 44; Page: 30

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?htx=view&r=5538&dbid=8767&iid=MDXRG9_268_268-0090&fn=Rachael&ln=Fyler&st=r&ssrc=&pid=5734079

[Merry]

There's a marriage 27th Jan 1851 which I realise is 10 years too late, but is between William Joseph Tyler, broad silk weaver, and Sarah Edwards at St Barts, Bethnal Green. The witnesses are Henry Smith and Elizabeth Williams. Of the bride, groom and witnesses only Henry Smith signs his name. Unfortunately, the address given isn't where they were living on the 1851 census - for the marriage both give 18 Cudworth Street.

[Merry]

On the marriage cert Sarah Edwards gives her father's details as John Edwards, Seaman.

There's a bap at St Matthew, Bethnal Green, 29th May 1818 for a girl named Sarah b 20th April 1818 the dau of John and Mary Edwards. John is a Mariner.

Obviously everything above hangs on the 1861 birth cert!! lol

[maggie_4_7]

oooh blimey thanks for the 1861 census I didn't find it but sometimes I do get distracted with other people and go off on a tangent if it's not easily found after a bit.

Rachel Tyler is my OH's great grandmother. I haven't got the birth cert yet because there were more pressing certs I needed i.e. my family :d but yes that's one way of finding her maiden name. So I suppose I'd better do that and I think I'll order it today!!! if I want to go back a bit further now on the Tylers and Sarah - got a bit stuck on that one.

Well that marriage is likely I'll check it out a bit of a coincidence if it's not them. Not obvious who Henry Smith and Elizabeth Williams is at the moment. They don't appear to be professional witnesses from what I can see.

Thanks for your help Merry.

Edit to say I had assumed they married around 1840 because their first child Sarah was born 1941 - but in FH we shouldn't assume anything should we! :d and also that death looks likely for Sarah so I think I'll order that while I'm about it.

[maggie_4_7]

On the marriage cert Sarah Edwards gives her father's details as John Edwards, Seaman.

There's a bap at St Matthew, Bethnal Green, 29th May 1818 for a girl named Sarah b 20th April 1818 the dau of John and Mary Edwards. John is a Mariner.

Obviously everything above hangs on the 1861 birth cert!! lol

Well I'd just checked out their children to consider Sarah's mother's name and the sequence goes:-
Sarah
Mary Ann
Emily Susanna
Jane
William
John
Henry John
Rachel

So I had just decided perhaps her mother's name was Mary Ann as William Joseph's was Sarah too and that's their first daughter's name.

[Merry]

You are lucky to find naming patterns in your London families. I've never found any in mine, except for the likelyhood of one or more child being named for a parent.

[maggie_4_7]

On OH's side they seem to follow the normal pattern in a lot of the families. First son after paternal grandfather, first and second daughters and sons after Paternal grandmother and maternal grandparents unless of course they have too many daughters or sons and then they seem to name them after their siblings until the right sex comes along to start the pattern again.

Edit to say: so now you've found a likely baptism for Sarah I'll check the names Emily Susanna and Jane at St Matthew! Don't know where those names come from to be honest could be names of Sarah's siblings perhaps - probably a long shot.

[maggie_4_7]

Obviously everything above hangs on the 1861 birth cert!! lol

Birth cert ordered :)

Thank you Merry it takes a clear mind sometimes I just get to distracted can't see the wood for the trees :rolleyes:

[Sue from Southend]

We're getting closer Maggie:d :d I've rellies at 7 Hare St in 1851:D

[maggie_4_7]

We're getting closer Maggie:d :d I've rellies at 7 Hare St in 1851:D

:d

It's funny you know my OH grew up in Hertfordshire but all his ancestors lived in the the same streets as mine the biggest one is Wolverly Street my mum was born there and I have at least 3 of his families living there at various times its uncanny!

[maggie_4_7]

Confirmed Sarah's maiden surname is Edwards :)

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[maggie_4_7]

Death cert arrived and details filled in