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Gert in Oz
12-06-10, 06:04
Name - "official" name and what they were known as
Isabella Holmes (Bella)

Date and place of birth
10 Feb 1852 66 Duke Street Derby

Names of parents
Isaac Holmes and Emma Hill

Date and place of baptism - if applicable
19 May 1861 St Michaels church Derby

Details of each of his or her marriages - if any
17 Dec 1872 St Michaels church Derby to William Calladine

Occupation(s) - if any
1871- Silk mill hand

Military service - if any
None

Addresses where they lived - and please list which censuses you have or haven't found him/her on.
1861-Court 8 Walker Lane Derby
1871-Court 8 No. 14 Walker Lane Derby
1881-B-12 Bridge Gate Derby
1891-Court 12 No. 2 "Wide Yard" Bridge Gate Derby
1901-Court 11 No. 35 Bridge Gate Derby
1911-10 Duke Street Derby

Date, place and cause of death
Mar Q 1916

Date and place of burial / cremation.
Not known

Details of will / administration of their estate - if applicable
Not known

Memorial inscription - if any
Not known

ElizabethHerts
12-06-10, 07:17
I found this baptism on the Family Search pilot site:

Name: Isabella Holmes
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 19 May 1861
Baptism/Christening Place: SAINT MICHAEL,DERBY,DERBY,ENGLAND
Father's Name: Isaac Holmes
Mother's Name: Emma


They waited rather a long time before having her baptised!

The marriage is there too:
Groom's Name: William Calladine
Groom's Birth Date: 1851
Groom's Age: 21
Bride's Name: Isabella Holmes
Bride's Birth Date: 1852
Bride's Age: 20
Marriage Date: 17 Dec 1872
Marriage Place: Saint Michael,Derby,Derby,England
Groom's Father's Name: William Street
Bride's Father's Name: Isaac Holmes

The bridegroom's father's name is interesting!

ElizabethHerts
12-06-10, 07:20
As I suspected, it was a "job lot"!

Name: Enoch Holmes
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 19 May 1861
Baptism/Christening Place: SAINT MICHAEL,DERBY,DERBY,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Isaac Holmes
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Emma
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C04984-3
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 1041152
Reference Number:
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975


Name: Ann Holmes
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 19 May 1861
Baptism/Christening Place: SAINT MICHAEL,DERBY,DERBY,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Isaac Holmes
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Emma
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C04984-3
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 1041152
Reference Number:
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Name: Isabella Holmes
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 19 May 1861
Baptism/Christening Place: SAINT MICHAEL,DERBY,DERBY,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Isaac Holmes
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Emma
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C04984-3
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 1041152
Reference Number:
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

There was this one too:

Name: John Holmes
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 29 Apr 1851
Baptism/Christening Place: SAINT MICHAEL,DERBY,DERBY,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Isaac Holmes
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Emma
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C04984-1
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 498062
Reference Number:
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

ElizabethHerts
12-06-10, 07:33
Sylvia, I have started a thread on multiple baptisms which might be of interest to you.

Gert in Oz
12-06-10, 09:19
Thank you so much Elizabeth, to my rescue again, now why couldn`t i find them.

Is there a Adeline too please, she was born between Ann and Enoch, 1857, i know she lived as she got married.

The John you found was the oldest born in Manchester where the parents married,

Gert in Oz
12-06-10, 09:27
I found this baptism on the Family Search pilot site:

Name: Isabella Holmes
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 19 May 1861
Baptism/Christening Place: SAINT MICHAEL,DERBY,DERBY,ENGLAND
Father's Name: Isaac Holmes
Mother's Name: Emma


They waited rather a long time before having her baptised!

The marriage is there too:
Groom's Name: William Calladine
Groom's Birth Date: 1851
Groom's Age: 21
Bride's Name: Isabella Holmes
Bride's Birth Date: 1852
Bride's Age: 20
Marriage Date: 17 Dec 1872
Marriage Place: Saint Michael,Derby,Derby,England
Groom's Father's Name: William Street
Bride's Father's Name: Isaac Holmes

The bridegroom's father's name is interesting!

Just noticed this Elizabeth, William Calladine was born William Street, his mother died in 1854 after the birth of her second child. William was taken in by his grandmother Sarah, who changed his surname to Calladine, the story is she never liked his father, who has not been found since.

ElizabethHerts
12-06-10, 09:41
They don't seem to have Adeline there. I can't find her on the IGI either.

Gert in Oz
12-06-10, 09:49
Thank you for looking, Elizabeth

ElizabethHerts
12-06-10, 10:06
Sylvia, it's so infuriating when this happens. I have found this with some of my families - you find some of the children, then others are missing, and you know perfectly well they existed!

I remember on OH's line the IGI had transcribed all the boys' baptisms, but the sisters' were nowhere to be found, although they were in the registers as clear as day!

Gert in Oz
12-06-10, 10:16
It is frustrating, i notice Adelines marriage is on there but not her baptism, i have looked up til 1880, as there was a younger sister Sarah (1866) born 8 years after the others hers is not there either.