McCrery - Another difficult one!

[Merry]

Nothing to add to BK6 from this thread

Apologies if we have been here before....I don't remember (I know I have! lol)

There are these two marriages in the LMA records on Ancestry:

9th May 1831 John McCrery, widower, married Hannah Mortlock, spinster, by banns at St Leonards Shoreditch, in the presence of John Mayes (his mark) and Susanah Hart. Bride and groom both signed.

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?htx=View&r=5538&dbid=1623&iid=31281_A101812-00071&fn=John&ln=McCrery&st=d&ssrc=&pid=1128126

13th Feb 1836 Thomas McCrery, bachelor, married Mary Mortlock, spinster, by banns at St George, Bloomsbury, in the presence of S Palmer and Emma Palmer. Bride and groom both signed.

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?htx=View&r=5538&dbid=1623&iid=31281_A100367-00224&fn=Thomas&ln=McCrery&st=d&ssrc=&pid=506612

I have not been able to pin down these people anywhere else as yet. My McCrery family lived in Bloomsbury and used St Georges for all their baps, marriages and burials from 1788 until 1829. However, I don't have any John or Thomas McCrerys to spare! Having said that I am fairly certain I have quite a few missing Mccrerys.

So, who are they and where did they come from or go to? Who was John previously married to? Did either couple hame any children? How are Hannah and Mary Mortlock connected? How are John and Thomas McCrery connected?

Questions, questions! lol

[kiterunner]

There is a John McCrery marriage to Esther Carr 18th July 1808 at St Giles in the Fields, Holborn, but the marriage entry in ancestry's LMA records looks to be a copied-out one, so I can't compare his signature with the 1831 one to see if it matches. Witnesses William Griggs and John Briar.

[kiterunner]

Then John and Esther had a job lot of baptisms for their children at St Anne Soho in 1817:
Joseph born Jan 19 1810, Thomas born Feb 2 1813, and William born Jan 6 1815.

So Thomas could be John's son.

[Merry]

Thanks Kate. That sounds likely. So it would be good if I could find a death for Esther (or any of them, for that matter!)

[kiterunner]

I could be barking up the wrong tree entirely, but there is this family in Frimley, Ash, Kent, in 1851:
Thomas McCrery Head Mar 37 Tailor Middlesex St Pancras
Eliza Do Wife Mar 33 Suffolk Saxmundham
Joseph Do Son 7 Midx Stepney
Anne Do Daur 5 Surrey Frimley
Jane Do Daur 3 Do Do
Thomas Do Son 5 mo Do Do

And in 1841 at Buckingham Place, Marylebone:
Thomas McCreary 25 Tailor I
Eliza McCreary 20 N

There is a baptism Apr 26 1835 at St Marylebone of Mary Johanna, born 2 May 1834, daughter of Thomas and Mary McCleery, 17 Castle Street, tailor.

Of course these might all be different families and not connected to the people we started with!

[Merry]

Oooh, a tailor! That's good.

Erm, so are we saying the usual McCrery curse of dying young had fallen upon Mary Mortlock, if he was married to an Eliza by 1841?

[kiterunner]

Oooh, a tailor! That's good. Glad to hear that. Though I wonder why he says in 1841 that he was born in Ireland? Unless the neighbours gave the info, I suppose.

Erm, so are we saying the usual McCrery curse of dying young had fallen upon Mary Mortlock, if he was married to an Eliza by 1841?

Most likely.

You probably noticed that Mary Johanna was born before the Thomas McCrery / Mary Mortlock marriage, by the way.

[Merry]

You probably noticed that Mary Johanna was born before the Thomas McCrery / Mary Mortlock marriage, by the way.

Indeed!! *horrified emoticon* They surely can't be mine then?????! lol

I can't see a marriage of Thomas to an Eliza - I'm thinking surely he lasted until 1837 for another marriage?!

[Merry]

I could get this birth cert to discover who the second Mrs M was :

Births Dec 1850
McCrery Thomas Farnham 4 173

[kiterunner]

As long as you don't blame me if it turns out not to be anything to do with your family!

[Merry]

*prepares solicitors letter* :D

I probably won't get it yet; may do a bit more prodding of the archives first!