Stupid Question

[Terri]

(Having AT LAST got my grubby mitts on London Parish Records) and JOY OF JOYS finding the baptism of the most annoying, elusive person in my tree .................


What does "abode" (in between parents' names and profession) actually mean? In this case "abode" is a few hundred miles from the place of the baptism.


Something else that's strange, where there is the same vicar's name on every other baptism on these pages, my one has "something-Church" written instead. Can't read the first bit.

[Merry]

Can we see it?

[Terri]

Here it is, bigger!
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n313/terrilast/BenjaminJamesbap-Copy.jpg

[Terri]

You first helped me with this guy back on GR Merry!
The annoying Benjamin James - on one census born in Hampton,Middx and on the next, born in Churchill, Oxfordshire.

Now we know the source of his confusion .... he was baptised in Hampton, Middx, but abode was Churchill, Oxfordshire ............. whatever that means!

[Gert in Oz]

Looks like Wm as in William Church to me Terri, i could be wrong though.

[Terri]

Why would they have had a different vicar to everyone else? The usual vicar was there - there was another baptism on the same day!

[Gert in Oz]

I have no idea, unless he was from another parish and was requested by the parents, maybe a family freind ?

[kiterunner]

I've deleted your post where you posted up the full image, Terri, because I'm not sure if ancestry would mind having a whole page posted up, plus your other post is easier to see anyway. Abode is just another word for residence or address, so they lived in Churchill, Oxfordshire but had their child baptised at Hampton. Maybe William Church was a family friend as Gert says.

[Terri]

I guess so, but I still cannot understand why they had their son baptised in Middlesex if they lived in Oxfordshire. It's not as if it was the possible "friend" vicar's own church.

They have a 2nd son baptised in a different church in Middlesex, but using the usual, local vicar and stating abode as Middlesex.

[Margaret in Burton]

Did they have family in the area?

Two of my grandmothers siblings were baptised in the parish of their father. This was in Suffolk and they lived in Staffordshire.

[Breckland Jane]

I was just going to suggest the same thing Marg. Were either the mother or father originally from that parish? I have quite often found a couple having their children (especially the first child) baptised in the mother's original parish. In fact, even my sister & her husband had their three children baptised in her home parish in Suffolk when they were living in Berkshire and Aberdeen.

Jane

[Terri]

Sadly I haven't a clue where the parents are from; it's taken me 6 years to pin down the son, so I'm not holding my breath on tracking them down in a hurry!

[Merry]

Did you see Benjamin most likely had a sibling called James James (:rolleyes:)

[Terri]

Yes, found him, no others unfortunately. I've been trying (hoping!) to find the parents (or James) in 1841 or 51, but it's almost impossible with such common names.

[Jill]

Just taken a look at the register & Wm Church does all the baptisms over the page, (not that it helps with your family)

[Merry]

These look very possible for their parents:

1851 census:

Samuel James head m 70 tinman b Peasmere (Peasemore?) Berkshire
Elizabeth James wife m 62 charwoman b City of London

then there's a load of visitors (who, of course, could be relatives!) who I can't face typing!

They are living at Back Lion Road, Twickenham (My g-grandmother lived in Lion Road (at the front? pmsl!!) in the 1880s!

[Merry]

SAMUEL JAMES Pedigree
Male
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 1782 Peasemore, Berkshire, England
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Parents:
Father: ROBERT JAMES
Mother: ELEANOR

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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record.

[Terri]

Oooh thank you so much Merry, that does look promising.

I saw several Samuel/Elizabeth tinman combinations in Cornwall (obviously!!) and gave up the chase at that point.

Might have them in 41 in Kingston - just down the road from Twickenham, and about 3 miles from where their son Benjamin is in 41.
Trouble is it says they are both born in county .......... but they are in someone else's house, so possibly weren't responsible for the finer census details.

[Merry]

lol!

I can't find them in 1841. At what point can you find Benjamin?

[Terri]

We posted together ....!
Benjamin is an apprentice chimney sweep in Ewell in 1841.

There's a 60 year old Samuel and 50 year old Elizabeth in Kingston in 41, but gives no occupation for Samuel. Can't find anything else close