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Merry
27-03-10, 13:09
BK6 updated from this thread

Why didn't my g-grandmother get baptised? She was the only girl in the family and had seven brothers. This is what I've found re baptisms for them:

Name.........................dob...............bap ..............where

William Watkin Wells......late 1847.......5/11/1847.....Holy Trinity, Twickenham, Mdx
Richard Wells...............mid 1859........13/3/1850.....Eton, Buckinghamshire
Walter James Wells.......late 1850........4/1/1852......Eton, Buckinghamshire
Inkermann Henry Wells..5/11/1854.......5/8/1855......Holy Trinity, Twickenham, Mdx
William Wells...............10/6/1856.......7/11/1859.....Holy Trinity, Twickenham, Mdx
Sarah Jane Wells.........24/11/1857......?????????
Frederick Wells............11/12/1859.....15/11/1863...Holy Trinity, Twickenham, Mdx
Henry Wells.................4/11/1861......15/11/1863...Holy Trinity, Twickenham, Mdx

The Eton Bucks baps are from the IGI and the Twickenham ones from the LMA records on Ancestry.

The family moved back to Twickenham between the birth and baptism of Inkermann and then remained at the same address for the next ten years.

How come Sarah Jane wasn't baptised at the same time as her brother, William?

UPDATE: I've just noticed William's baptism was marked as a private one, so was he baptised in a hurry aged 3+ and his sister was overlooked and then overlooked again when her younger brothers were baptised?

Lastly, if anyone can find out what happened to Inkermann it would be much appreciated. He is on the 1861 with his parents and then vanishes!

kiterunner
27-03-10, 14:58
Lastly, if anyone can find out what happened to Inkermann it would be much appreciated. He is on the 1861 with his parents and then vanishes!

He wasn't called Ink for short, was he?
*getting near to April Fool's Day emoticon*

Merry
27-03-10, 16:51
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::D

I don't know! I assumed he might appear later as Henry, but that's not helping!

ElizabethHerts
27-03-10, 17:22
Well, I can't even find Inkermann's birth on FreeBMD or on FMP for the correct period!

Merry
27-03-10, 17:35
I think he was called Male Wells when he was registered (the only one in Wycombe district in the right Q) :) Several of their children seem to have been registered this way, though I only have two of their certs.

maggie_4_7
27-03-10, 17:50
There's an awful lot of people coming up on BMDs around that period with Inkerman as a middle name.

kiterunner
27-03-10, 18:29
That would be because of the Battle of Inkerman in the Crimean War.

Merry
27-03-10, 18:51
My Inkerman(n) was born on the day of the battle which is probably why he got lumbered with it as his FIRST name!!

maggie_4_7
27-03-10, 19:23
:d

oh right the Crimean War - well its not only people today that name their children with errrrrm unusual or fashionable names then...

I can hear them now in Albert Square screeching 'Inkerman come here will ya' ;)

or in a few years 'Afghan Smith' or ' Iraq Jones'!

maggie_4_7
27-03-10, 19:29
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::D

I don't know! I assumed he might appear later as Henry, but that's not helping!

I think you're most certainly right. I'd assume he dropped Inkerman and was known as Henry but by the same token he could have taken a completely different first name.

Margaret in Burton
27-03-10, 19:44
I think you're most certainly right. I'd assume he dropped Inkerman and was known as Henry but by the same token he could have taken a completely different first name.


Harry?

Merry
27-03-10, 19:49
As Kate said, he didn't want to be an inkwell!

I've just realised he wasn't born in Eton, Bucks like his older brothers, but in High Wycombe. (whoops!)

That still doesn't help and if he's anything like half the rest of his family, he didn't know where he was born in any case!

ElizabethHerts
27-03-10, 20:18
As Kate said, he didn't want to be an inkwell!

I've just realised he wasn't born in Eton, Bucks like his older brothers, but in High Wycombe. (whoops!)

That still doesn't help and if he's anything like half the rest of his family, he didn't know where he was born in any case!

Well, Merry, I think I found him earlier as a servant born in High Wycombe but I dismissed him because of the pob! :d Let's see if I can find him again!

ElizabethHerts
27-03-10, 20:23
1871
RG10 Piece: 863 Folio: 73 Page: 15

Registration District: Kingston Sub District: Esher Enumeration District: 4

Winter's Bridge Ewell Rd, Thames Ditton County:
Surrey

DRAWATER, George Head M 41 1830 Middlesex Baker
DRAWATER, Emma Wife F 41 1830 Middlesex
DRAWATER, Joseph Son M 12 1859 Middlesex
DRAWATER, George Son M 10 1861 Middlesex
DRAWATER, Eliza Daughter F 8 1863 Middlesex
DRAWATER, Julia Daughter F 2 1869 Surrey
WELLS, Henry Servant M 17 1854 Buckinghamshire Baker's Assistant High Wickham Bucks

Not a servant, but baker's assistant!

ElizabethHerts
27-03-10, 20:31
I don't know enough to tell if this is him in 1881:

RG number:RG11 Piece: 2190 Folio: 29 Page: 23

12, Alma Street, Plymouth Charles County:
Devonshire
LEAR, Thomas Head Married M 40 1841 Shopman Ironmongers Modbury Devon
LEAR, Ada Maria Daughter Single F 11 1870 Scholar Shoreditch Middlesex
LEAR, George A Son Single M 9 1872 Scholar Kingsbridge Devon
LEAR, Josias Father Married M 64 1817 Plumber (Unemployed) Modbury Devon
LEAR, Elizabeth Mother Married F 59 1822 Modbury Devon
WELLS, Henry Boarder Single M 28 1853 Sapper Royal Engineer High Wycombe
Buckinghamshire
WELLS, Charles A Boarder Single M 24 1857 Sapper Royal Engineer Wakefield
Yorkshire


You don't mention a brother called Charles!!

ElizabethHerts
27-03-10, 20:43
Charles Arthur Siddle Wells
born Jun 1858 Wakefield

I haven't a clue if he is anything to do with your family, though!

Merry
27-03-10, 20:45
Oooh, nice one, Elizabeth!! I have to admit to seeing that baker's assistant before too. I dismissed him like you did, but unlike you I didn't remember him again after I noticed I had the place of birth wrong!

That's a very likely possible for 1881. I don't think that Charles is connected, though.

Thanks very much!! :)

ElizabethHerts
27-03-10, 20:50
FMP has military records for the REs and a "Major Wells" is mentioned.

Afghan War 1878-1880.

ElizabethHerts
27-03-10, 20:54
We have to be careful here as there is a Major Henry Lake Wells in the REs. I don't think his second name is always given. However, the High Wycombe birthplace seems a coincidence.

ElizabethHerts
27-03-10, 20:59
1891 census

Birth place Eton Bucks!

RG number: RG12 Piece: 620 Folio: 77 Page: 19
3, Ashley Road, Richmond Surrey

WELLS, Harry Lodger Married M 38 1853 Painter & Decorator Eton Bucks.
WELLS, Ellen Wife Married F 21 1870 Hammersmith Middlesex

Again, I don't know if he is yours, Merry!

Merry
27-03-10, 21:25
That seems even more likely! However, does that mean the baker's assistant is a red herring? A lot of the Wells had a painting and decorating phase!! :rolleyes:

ElizabethHerts
27-03-10, 21:29
That seems even more likely! However, does that mean the baker's assistant is a red herring? A lot of the Wells had a painting and decorating phase!! :rolleyes:

It's 20 years later, Merry! Perhaps he liked to dabble!

I can't narrow down a marriage between Harry/Henry and Ellen. She was only 21 in 1891 so they couldn't have been married long!

Merry
28-03-10, 06:59
Yes, and I couldn't see a sensible marriage.

I was thinking the baker might be a red herring because why would he forget he was b in High Wycombe and think he was b in Eton like his brothers? ......I don't know why I'm asking that really as these Wells have been al over the place with their census info. They must have been the most difficult family on my tree to trace forwards - more vanish than get tidily buried!

maggie_4_7
28-03-10, 08:08
Merry

I just realised that Inkerman had a younger brother called Henry! So he might not have used Henry because of that :confused:

Kit
28-03-10, 09:46
Merry

I just realised that Inkerman had a younger brother called Henry! So he might not have used Henry because of that :confused:

Do you have a date of death for Henry?

I only ask as my 2g grandfather could not make up his mind what his name was, although the YOB indicates he was the younger brother, but he ended up using his elder brothers name. If he was the elder brother he lied about his age and alternated between his and his younger brothers names.

I can't find a death for the other brother, under either name.

Merry
28-03-10, 14:21
Do you have a date of death for Henry?


Oops, I forgot there were two Henrys! I only have Henry (the younger one) on the 1871 census, aged 9.

Nell
28-03-10, 17:10
Not sure I've ever seen a red herring in a baker's - surely you'd need a fishmonger!