John Spencer MFMF

[Gert in Oz]

Name - "official" name and what they were known as
John Spencer

Date and place of birth
abt 1803 Crich or Brackensfield Derbyshire

Names of parents
Not known

Date and place of baptism - if applicable
Not found

Details of each of his or her marriages - if any
1) 16 Sept 1828 Matlock to Frances/Fanny Knowles
2) 13 Oct 1832 Chesterfield to Lucy Knowles

Occupation(s) - if any
Miller (small occupier) and Railway contractive agent

Addresses where they lived (including county if in UK) - and please list which censuses you have or haven't found him/her on.
1841-Temple Normanton (chesterfield)
1851-Temple Normanton
1861-Normanton Common Nottinghamshire

Date, place and cause of death
Somewhere between 1861 and Dec 1863

Date and place of burial / cremation.
Not known

Details of will / administration of their estate - if applicable
Not known

Memorial inscription - if any
None

[Merry]

This burial is about three miles from Normanton Common and is the right age:

First name(s): John
Last name: SPENCER
Date of burial: 12 Oct 1862
Age at death: 58
Calculated year of birth: 1804
Place of burial: Sutton in Ashfield
Dedication: St Mary Magdalene
County: Nottinghamshire

and matches with this death:

Deaths Dec 1862
Spencer John Mansfield 7b 35

[Merry]

Hmmm....maybe not - there's another JS living in Sutton in Ashfield in 1861, same age who has died by 1871 and his widow, Sarah, is still in the same place in 1871. There are no other deaths in Mansfield before 1871. If you haven't checked out thus death already then maybe you should, just to see if it's yours or the other chap's?

[Gert in Oz]

Thank you Merry, i have 2 of his daughters marriage certs both Dec 1863, Mary (My GGrandmother) in Derby on the 13th and Sarah in London on the 21st, only Sarah`s says deceased. Sarah was also housekeeper for her father in 1861, Mary was a servant elsewhere.

I did find a death in Basford Dec 1863, but thought surely he didn`t die in the week between marriages

[kiterunner]

My great-grandfather got married 10 days after his father's death, if that helps.

[Gert in Oz]

Now you have set me thinking Kite, Sarah was married by registrar`s certificate.

Oops forgot my manners , thank you Kite