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bidston
19-03-10, 10:55
name - thomas mcentegert

date and place of birth - ireland circa 1813

names of parents - unknown

baptism - unknown

marriage - jane mcentagert , born liverpool circa 1817, maiden name - jane saul

occupation - on daughter frances marriage certificate 24 sept 1867 down as porter, on 1861 census down as master porter

addresses - 1861 18 deacon st, everton, 1871 wife alone at 32 holton street, west derby, 1881 wife only at 15 gilead street, west derby, 1851 28 bright street, everton, 1841 14 clarence street, mount pleasant

death - unknown, but missing, not recorded as deceased in 1867 but missing from census 1871

burial - unknown, presumed liverpool

will - not in our family

memorial - unknown

garstonite
19-03-10, 11:05
you have Thomas Mcentegert married Jane McentAgert is this a spelling mistake or correct...if it is a mistake , do you have Janes Maiden name ?
can we safely say that they married in Liverpool as Jane was born there and so was the daughter ?....allan:)

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there are NO Mcentegert on record on freebmd until 1894...there are 3 records 1894 and 1895 in Liverpool and 1910 in Abergavenny
it would appear there will be different spellings of Thomas`s surname...have you come across spelling differences ?...if so could you post them....NO RESULTS on familysearch.org either.....allan

bidston
19-03-10, 11:07
cheers allan, don't know her maiden name, would presume all happened in liverpool, good to hear from you

garstonite
19-03-10, 11:14
just added as we both posted Mcentegert is showing almost nothing...surname variations...do you have any in your research ?....allan:confused:

bidston
19-03-10, 11:16
just the obvious, menetegert, mcentegart, mcentagert etc

Merry
19-03-10, 12:21
Could this be the birth of the dau, Frances Amelia McEntegert, who married in 1867?

Name: Frances Amelia McEnteyart
Year of Registration: 1847
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: West Derby
County: Lancashire
Volume: 20
Page: 910

The birth cert should give you her mmn.

Merry
19-03-10, 12:39
Here's the 1851 census details:

Bright St, Everton

Thomas McEntegart head m 40 corn dealer b Ireland
Jane McEntegart wife m 36 b Liverpool (all the following children are b Liverpool)
Henrietta L McEntegart dau 9
Francis N McEntegart son 3 <<< I'm thinking this should be a girl! lol
William McEntegart son 13
Thomas McEntegart son 11
Alfred McEntegart son 9
Augustus McEntegart son 6
Ellen ?? 25 servant b Kildare, Ireland

HO107; Piece: 2190; Folio: 173; Page: 9; GSU roll: 87197.

Ancestry have the surname as Entigart.

Merry
19-03-10, 12:43
In 1841 they are at Clarence St, Mount Pleasant, Liverpool - children Wm 4, Thos 2 and Alfred 1.

HO107; Piece 560; Book: 9; Civil Parish: Liverpool; County: Lancashire; Enumeration District: 9; Folio: ; Page: 1; Line: 25

Merry
19-03-10, 12:45
death - unknown, but missing, not recorded as deceased in 1867 but missing from census 1871

This looks like his death:

Name: Thomas McEntaggart
Year of Registration: 1869
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 63
District: West Derby
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 377

kiterunner
19-03-10, 12:46
This is the main thread about the family, to avoid going over the same ground again:

http://genealogistsforum.co.uk/Forum/showthread.php?t=3377

Merry
19-03-10, 12:48
Oh, so that was a complete waste of time then!! lol

kiterunner
19-03-10, 12:49
Sorry, I've only just seen this thread as I've been out shopping, otherwise I would have posted the link up earlier.

Merry
19-03-10, 13:14
Never mind. Hope you had a nice shopping experience?!

kiterunner
19-03-10, 13:23
Well, Tesco not so much, but I did get the new issue of Family Tree magazine in Smith's.

bidston
19-03-10, 13:59
thanks for that merry, forgot i had the earlier stuff, the death is interesting but the age is a bit high, but the census are all over the place, 30 in 1841, 40 in 1851, but 48 in 1861, could be him

bidston
19-03-10, 14:00
with him being born ireland, any way i could look him up

kiterunner
19-03-10, 14:52
The trouble is you would need more info to know if you find the right one in Ireland.

bidston
07-04-10, 05:53
can anyone find the marriage, thomas mcentagert born dublin to jane saul born liverpool 1814, in 1841 they had a 4 year old so maybe 1837?, thanks all

kiterunner
07-04-10, 11:45
I think we looked for the marriage online before and couldn't find it, so you would need to look it up at the record office or maybe on a CD if one is available, sorry.