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vallee
03-09-09, 15:48
cannot find the birth of a Mary Ann Keen C in 1838 St Leonards Church Shoreditch
Notice it says born London Wall on a couple of census record did get one born in Bethnal Green 1839 but wrong girl any ideas what areas it would be registerd in thanks
kiterunner
03-09-09, 15:53
What age is she on the 1841 census, Val?
vallee
03-09-09, 15:55
she is 3 Kite
kiterunner
03-09-09, 15:57
So she could have been born before civil registration even started then, as she could have been born June 1837.

Still trying to sort out this London Wall thing...
vallee
03-09-09, 15:58
she has a sister born in sept 1835 in Aldermansbury so am hoping this one was just born into 1837 at least
kiterunner
03-09-09, 16:03
I think it might have been Bishopsgate district July 1837 - Mar 1838 and then East London but I'm not sure yet.
vallee
03-09-09, 16:08
there is one for a Mary Ann Keen March 1839 Greater London wonder if the christening date could be wrong ??????????????
vallee
03-09-09, 16:08
must go and cook thanks for your help Kite really appreciate it back later
kiterunner
03-09-09, 16:09
Can't be Greater London, I'll have a look and see if I can figure it out.
kiterunner
03-09-09, 16:15
Not sure which one you mean in Mar 1839, the Lambeth one maybe?

Anyway, I'm confused now, because FreeBMD / GENUKI say that Bishopsgate reg district was abolished 1st April 1838 and succeeded by East London, and FreeBMD's births for Apr-Jun 1838 are supposed to be >99% complete, but if you search for all births in Bishopsgate and East London in that quarter (without putting in a name at all), there are only 4 births! What's happened to the rest of them?
maggie_4_7
03-09-09, 17:09
London Wall is a road running from Wormwood St to Aldersgate Street.

i.e. from Bishopsgate through to Clerkenwell it starts of as Wormwood Street. So it could be Clerkenwell, City of London, or Finsbury district.
kiterunner
03-09-09, 17:13
That's right, Maggie, which is why I think it was in Bishopsgate district in 1837. I wonder what happened to the Apr-Jun London birth registrations, though; there seems to be a big hole!

What was her christening date, Val? I think you just said 1838, but do you have an exact date?
maggie_4_7
03-09-09, 17:14
That's right, Maggie, which is why I think it was in Bishopsgate district in 1837. I wonder what happened to the Apr-Jun London birth registrations, though; there seems to be a big hole!

What was her christening date, Val? I think you just said 1838, but do you have an exact date?

Well that's why I said it could be Finsbury.
Merry
03-09-09, 17:16
That's right, Maggie, which is why I think it was in Bishopsgate district in 1837. I wonder what happened to the Apr-Jun London birth registrations, though; there seems to be a big hole!



That sounds like you are saying Apr-Jun 1837? But as I know you know registrations didn't start until July I guess you mean 1838?

*goes for a lie down*
maggie_4_7
03-09-09, 17:19
Have you discounted the Mary Ann Keen born in Bethnal Green Vol 2 Page 51 in 1839 I suppose you have...?

:confused:

Yes you have...

Edit to say: I know this is a silly question but are you sure she was registered Mary Ann Keen and not just Ann Keen there is Ann Keen born City of London vol 2 page 132! I do talk twaddle though :)
vallee
03-09-09, 18:22
thanks everybody she was christened on the 11 feb 1838 I suppose its possible she was just registered under the name Mary keen ???
kiterunner
03-09-09, 18:25
Sorry, Merry, I meant that I think London Wall was in Bishopsgate district 1837-1838 and then moved to East London. But there don't seem to be any birth regs for either of those districts in Apr-Jun 1838 on FreeBMD (well, 4 for East London, then). So I'm wondering if hers was one of the missing birth registrations.

Finsbury wasn't a district in 1930, so it can't have been that.

Ah, I see she was baptised well before April so hopefully she wasn't one of those missing registrations after all!
samesizedfeet
03-09-09, 18:32
It's a bit out of the way for London Wall but have you looked into this one?

Births Dec 1837
Kean Mary Ann Marylebone 1 108
vallee
03-09-09, 18:38
now that looks interesting thanks why didnt I see that one
vallee
03-09-09, 18:53
actually her grandparents lived in Marylebone at that time so maybe she was born there??