William Parker Sayer

[maggie_4_7]

My mother's mother's mother's father:-

Name:
William Parker Sayer

Date and place of birth:
24th December 1842 at 21 Swan Yard, Shoreditch, London, England

Names of parents:
Charles Sayer and Elizabeth Parker

Date and place of baptism:
1st January 1843 at St Leonard’s Church, Shoreditch, London, England

Details of each of his or her marriages :
Marriage to Emma Wingfield on 21 August 1862 at St James’ Church, Shoreditch, London, England
Witnesses Edward and Jane Dorset nee Wingfield

Occupation(s)
Cabinet Maker

Addresses where they lived (including county if in UK):
8 Calendar Yard, Curtain Road, Shoreditch, London, England
Class: HO107; Piece: 1533; Folio: 552; Page: 15; GSU roll: 174763.

Not got 1861 Census

26 Eaton Place, Shoreditch, London, England
Class: RG10; Piece: 332; Folio: 26; Page: 48; GSU roll: 818902.

6 New North Place, Shoreditch, London, England
Class: RG11; Piece: 384; Folio: 36; Page: 26; GSU roll: 1341083.

42 Wilmes Gardens, Shoreditch, London, England
Class: RG12; Piece: 251; Folio 182; Page 40; GSU roll: 6095361.

Date, place and cause of death:
Abt 1898 Shoreditch, London, England cause unknown.

Date and place of burial / cremation.
Not known

Details of will / administration of their estate:
Not known

Memorial inscription:
Not known

[Margaret in Burton]

1871

Transcribed as Dayer

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?htx=view&r=5538&dbid=7619&iid=LNDRG10_329_332-0577&fn=Charles&ln=Dayer&st=d&ssrc=&pid=29372690

[maggie_4_7]

Thank you very much.

I spent a couple of hours yesterday checking to make sure I couldn't find him on other census so other people didn't waste their time and zilch! And I see Walter Emma's brother is with them too.

Do you think this could be him in 1861

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?ssrc=pt_t1310698_p-1953334308_g32768_r_h_l&srchb=r&gss=angs-c&rank=1&tid=1

I have no idea why he would be in Devon doesn't seem likely and if I could find the rest of the family without him I might be convinced its him. The age is out a bit. William was both a bedstead maker and cabinet maker just like his father. I assume the jobs are interchangeable.

I found the rest of the family

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&rank=1&db=uki1861&pgt=punt&ssrc=pt_t1310698_p288888784_g32768_r_h_l&srchb=r&tid=1310698&pid=288888784&gsfn=John+Parker&gsln=Sayer&gsby=1852&_82004010__ftp=Shoreditch%2c+London%2c+England&_81004020=1873&_82004020__ftp=St+John%27s+Church%2c+South+Hackney %2c+London%2c+England&_8000C000=Charles+Sayer&_80008000=Elizabeth+Parker&_80018000=Jane&gss=angs-d&pcat=35&fh=83&h=5572509&recoff=1+2&fsk=BEDw1jgIgAAiPwDaDAw-61-&bsk=&pgoff=

[Margaret in Burton]

All I'm getting is that b***dy boy with the rope!

[maggie_4_7]

That's weird so am I on the first link the second link works!

Edit to say:

Something has just occurred to me my direct ancester Martha 'Louisa' Sayer was born on 16th Jan 1861 and William and Emma didn't marry until 21st August 1862 maybe he was keeping his head down or was trying to hide, or run away or something! James his older unmarried brother was still at home as I can see now I've found them on the 1861 census! Louisa was their first child and she wasn't baptised until she was 13 years old with a few of her younger siblings.

[Margaret in Burton]

same here, I can view the 2nd one

[Margaret in Burton]

I've searched for him myself and found that image.

It could quite well be him. The age is a little out but the occupation is right, cabinet maker.

does this link work?:

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?htx=view&r=5538&dbid=8767&iid=DEVRG9_1397_1400-0345&fn=William&ln=Sayer&st=d&ssrc=&pid=17673170

[maggie_4_7]

Yes it does and I think it is him.

I edited my post above because I have thought of a scenario of why he could have been in Devon but we'll never know for sure.