New Zealand passenger list1869?

[Rachel]

;( I've been searching for a George Henry Cox, who was apparently born c1855 in Berkshire and emigrated to NZ.

A number of trees on Ancestry have him confused with my rellie, George Cox and I've had no luck finding this George Henry, so I wonder if he changed his name some time.

His marriage cert. names my George's parents as his! but there is no George Henry listed with George's family.

I'm attaching part of a document I was sent and have had no luck finding him on the passenger list.

Any ideas please? It's driving me nuts.

And I think I've put it in the wrong place.
Apologies

https://adailyramble.co.uk/forum/gallery/2_19_03_24_3_56_48.jpeg

[kiterunner]

There is a George Cox who travelled from Glasgow to Brisbane, Queensland, Australia, on the Rodell Bay, leaving 7 Apr 1877 and arriving 2 (or 4) Jul 1877, age 19. I haven't found an image yet, only indexes.

[kiterunner]

Could George Henry be Henry, the older brother of your George?

[Rachel]

Could George Henry be Henry, the older brother of your George?

Thank you Kate,
That's what I wondered but Henry's with his parents and some of the siblings on the 1871 census.

Another possibility is John, who was born in 1849.
This is why I was searching the passenger lists for anybody with that surname. Nothing comes up. Lutterworth doesn't appear anywhere.

[kiterunner]

But couldn't he (Henry) have emigrated after 1871?

[Rachel]

But couldn't he (Henry) have emigrated after 1871?

I suppose so but the article says 1869.

Also, I have a Henry Cox on the 1881 census, born in the same town as the rest of the siblings.

[ElizabethHerts]

What was the mother's maiden name?

[Rachel]

What was the mother's maiden name?

Ballinger or Bellinger.
Born in Oxford 1814
Married 1837, just before civil registration came in!

[ElizabethHerts]

So these two belong to your family:

COX, HENRY BELLINGER
GRO Reference: 1853 S Quarter in FARINGDON Volume 02C Page 222

COX, DAVID BELLINGER
GRO Reference: 1856 J Quarter in FARINGDON Volume 02C Page 258

[Rachel]

So these two belong to your family:

COX, HENRY BELLINGER
GRO Reference: 1853 S Quarter in FARINGDON Volume 02C Page 222

COX, DAVID BELLINGER
GRO Reference: 1856 J Quarter in FARINGDON Volume 02C Page 258

Thank you Elizabeth.
Yes, I do have all the family info. All the children were born in Faringdon.


It's just this very strange George Henry.
So far, all I've been told about his birth is that he was born in Berks.
The person in NZ is fairly new to family history and is searching through documents.

She sent me his marriage cert. and he names his parents as my George's parents!

[kiterunner]

What is the article, and when was it written, Rachel?

[kiterunner]

Okay, I've found the article on Papers Past:
Otago Witness 3 Jul 1928
Mr George Henry Cox, of Enfield, who has been a resident of North Otago for a period of over half a century, passed away on June 24 at the age of 74 years. The deceased was born at Farindon, Berkshire, in 1853, and came to New Zealand in the barque Lutterworth, reaching Port Chalmers in 1869.

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/OW19280703.2.99?items_per_page=10&page=4&query=%22george+henry+cox%22&snippet=true

[kiterunner]

The Lutterworth was purchased for the New Zealand trade in 1872, so the date in that articles seems to be wrong:

https://natlib.govt.nz/records/22878203?search%5Bi%5D%5Bname_authority_id%5D=-97810&search%5Bpath%5D=items

[kiterunner]

There are some links to various NZ passenger lists on here but I don't know whether they will all still work:
https://freepages.rootsweb.com/~sooty/genealogy/Passenger-Lists-to-NZFrame1Source1.html

[kiterunner]

Hmm, I found a passenger list for the Lutterworth on its voyage from London to Port Chalmers 1872-1873 but it says cabin Mr Davis, intermediate and steerage 103 unknown names.
http://www.yesteryears.co.nz/shipping/passlistl2.html

[Rachel]

Wow Kate, that's SUPERB!

Thank you so much.

At present, I have no idea when the article was written and sincerely hope my new contact in NZ finds something pertinent in her paperwork.

I understand that her late aunt was meticulous and checked everything, from every angle, as we all should.

Henry Cox, unless George Henry was lying about his birth for some reason, remains the main 'suspect', although the Henry I found in 1881 will need further attention.

Aha ... cross posted and have just seen your reply re the Lutterworth! BUM! No list.:mad:

[kiterunner]

Is this the 1881 entry that you mean?

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/7572/images/HAMRG11_1251_1256-0335?treeid=&personid=&rc=&queryId=da363355-e627-4b8a-9ad5-bb82a68f9e5d&usePUB=true&_phsrc=UMN122454&_phstart=successSource&pId=7047128

Farnborough, Hampshire
Henry Cox Unm 26 Private 56th Regiment Farringdon Berks.

[Rachel]

Is this the 1881 entry that you mean?

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/7572/images/HAMRG11_1251_1256-0335?treeid=&personid=&rc=&queryId=da363355-e627-4b8a-9ad5-bb82a68f9e5d&usePUB=true&_phsrc=UMN122454&_phstart=successSource&pId=7047128

Farnborough, Hampshire
Henry Cox Unm 26 Private 56th Regiment Farringdon Berks.

Indeed it is.
It could be that this is the other one born the same year

[kiterunner]

The soldier seems to be Harry Cox who was born in 1857, MMN Westall. This is the 1901 census entry and he is Harry on the marriage to Georgina in 1890:

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/7814/images/ESSRG13_1663_1665-0543?treeid=&personid=&rc=&queryId=c5a5b6be-a708-4d8e-95e2-2319b00c78c8&usePUB=true&_phsrc=UMN122455&_phstart=successSource&pId=9662373

Here are his army papers but the first page is very blurry (as are some of the later ones too):
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/1114/images/miuk1914a_083968-02477?treeid=&personid=&rc=&queryId=58280c18-7f0e-4fe8-9ae9-ab8781ec1fc7&usePUB=true&_phsrc=UMN122458&_phstart=successSource&pId=764094
Age 18 in Feb 1874 whereas your Henry would have been 20. (Well, Harry would be under 18 but more likely to add years on than subtract them I should think.) Occupation before joining up - plater and plasterer.

[kiterunner]

Yes, to confirm that the soldier is not your Henry, here is the page in his army papers giving parents' names as William and Jane:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/1114/images/miuk1914a_083968-02485?treeid=&personid=&rc=&queryId=58280c18-7f0e-4fe8-9ae9-ab8781ec1fc7&usePUB=true&_phsrc=UMN122458&_phstart=successSource&pId=764094

[Rachel]

Oh goodness.

Impossible to read but I can take a look on Ancestry tomorrow.:cool:

[KiwiChris]

There are number of passenger list sites, but I cannot find any early passenger lists for Lutterworth, although she was certainly at Port Chalmers 1873 and 1874
I would imagine that family memories for the newspaper story would get the name of the ship correct and the port of arrival, and Port Chalmers would be the entry point for Otago where he seems to have finished up.
Maybe the year is incorrect, or he may left c1869 and come via Australia. There was a quite a bit of travel between the two countries and not much in the way of passenger lists for trans tasman crossings.

It looks like the 1873 voyage was to bring in the last of able bodied men to work on public works schemes, particulary contracts to build the railways. The government had a contract with John Brogden and sons of Westminster, and one of the sailing reports the arrival of 104 passengers including a number of "Brogdens navvies".

The George Henry COX who died 1928 was b c1854 according to cemetery records, he is buried Oamaru. Doesn't that make him the right age to be Henry?

[Rachel]

There are number of passenger list sites, but I cannot find any early passenger lists for Lutterworth, although she was certainly at Port Chalmers 1873 and 1874
I would imagine that family memories for the newspaper story would get the name of the ship correct and the port of arrival, and Port Chalmers would be the entry point for Otago where he seems to have finished up.
Maybe the year is incorrect, or he may left c1869 and come via Australia. There was a quite a bit of travel between the two countries and not much in the way of passenger lists for trans tasman crossings.

It looks like the 1873 voyage was to bring in the last of able bodied men to work on public works schemes, particulary contracts to build the railways. The government had a contract with John Brogden and sons of Westminster, and one of the sailing reports the arrival of 104 passengers including a number of "Brogdens navvies".

The George Henry COX who died 1928 was b c1854 according to cemetery records, he is buried Oamaru. Doesn't that make him the right age to be Henry?


Many thanks for such detailed info Chris.
Yes that 1854 Henry HAS to be George Henry. There is nobody else who fits. :)

[Rachel]

I just want to thank you all for the amazing help.

The recent info I received was so contradictory and I'm not the best 'investigator' in the world, so although my initial idea was that this George Henry chap in NZ was really HENRY, proving it became a serious nightmare.

Sending you all A HUGE HUG, purrs and kisses :D