Searching for birth of Cyril Reel

[Qwackers]

Hi , firstly Happy New year to all . I am searching for a birth of a cyril Reel a eleanor B Reel or a Doris May Reel .for a relative in aus . He is part of her and my husbands tree . All i have to go on at the moment is the 1939 register . For Marlbrough and Ramsbury . I have had a look at this , but i'm not sure if the surname is Reel and not Peel ? so if someone could have a look and give me their view i would be grateful as it looks like Peel to me . But Cyril was born in 1890 according to the register location not known Eleanor in 1890 and Doris May in 1914 . It says cyril is the steward of the Hostel , around the area . and the others domestics / cooks etc . Doris Mays surname is crossed with clark written in . I would love some help with this puzzler . Cyril is in east africa Having a child in 1927 with Whilamina Muller , child Erna Mina Muller . if this is the same person , So he must leave africa at some point I cant check passenger lists etc as my ancestry sub is only uk and not worldwide . Any help would be gratefully received thanks ps i tried to look up where the Hostel was etc .
but as yet have not found anything . Thanks

[kiterunner]

It is Peel - compare the initial letter with the initial letter of Perkins a few lines down. Also there is the marriage of a Doris M Peel to Arthur W Clark in 1940 in Marlborough.

Is your Cyril (the one who was in East Africa in 1927) definitely a Reel? If so then the one on the 1939 Register isn't him.

[kiterunner]

Also, if you were searching passenger lists for people arriving in the UK, they would be included in a "premium" UK sub ("All UK & Ireland records") but not an "essentials" one ("UK Records only").

[Olde Crone]

This seems likely -

M MQ 1914 Sheffield 9c 736
Cyril Peel to Eleanor B Jackson

Followed by

Birth SQ 1914 Sheffield 9c 1458
Doris May Peel. Mmn Jackson


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[Olde Crone]

A bit more - SPECULATIVE! Needs checking with census, certs etc.

Marriages - SQ 1890 Sheffield 9c 478

Arthur Jackson to
Jane Barber.

Birth - 1890 SQ Sheffield
Eleanor Barber Jackson, mmn Barber.

Even more speculative -



Marriage 1865 DQ Sheffield 9c 408

John Peel to
Mary Ann Perkins.

The trouble with this one (Cyril) is that he was born after 25 years of marriage, not impossible of course, but a bit suspicious.

Cyril Peel mmn Perkins
JQ 1890 9c 442

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[Qwackers]

Hi Kite , i thought the name looked like Peel not Reel . and the marriage of Doris would fit as you have said . So i will have to go back to their tree as it throws a lot of their info into doubt , im sure ive seen somewhere on the tree that Cyril was the brother of a Basil Reel a famous or infamous hunter in tanzania . But the cyril reel on the 1939 census may have no relevance to them . Thanks

[Qwackers]

Hi according to the tree the father of Cyril Reel was arthur george watkins Reel born in Bombay in 1866. I cant see Basil Reel on there , but it suggests he's a brother of cyril . and he was a famous hunter in Tanzania which i found on Google . I know Whilamina muller was living in Tanzania , and Erna was definetly born in tanzania so that part is correct . Whether the Cyril On the 1939 reg is the correct person ,is looking a little bit dubious .? There are a few military records for the father , which i havent looked at yet , but will do that. Because i haven't a world wide sub I cant check everything . thanks

[kiterunner]

So the Cyril who you are looking into is definitely Cyril Reel, and therefore not the person who you found on the 1939 Register.

[Merry]

Arthur George Watkins Reel was born in Bombay 12th Oct 1866, parents John Henry Robert and Caroline Reel (FMP British India Office Births & Baptisms).

[Merry]

There's a marriage for him 01 May 1890 to Millicent Mabel Maud Waite also in Bombay.

[Merry]

Children born in Bombay to this couple are

Aug 1890 Henry Arthur Basil Reel

Nov 1891 Irene Amy Margaret Louise Reel

Mar 1902 Algernon Cyrus Reel

I've only searched surname Reel at the moment, but that's a big gap so with try other surname spellings.....

[Qwackers]

Hi i found the marriage , of Doris , but now i think the 1939 census isn't the same cyril as the one in Tanzania . On the tree it doesn't have any evidence of Cyril 's birth , only in mention in letters of family were it mentions his brother being Basil Reel . which could be true as he did his hunting in Tanzania . so we have no concrete evidence that they are the same cyril ? let me know your thoughts on this ? I may be completely wrong .Lol

[Qwackers]

Sorry I posted that and only just saw your posts . so i agree the census cyril isnt the one in Tanzania .

[Merry]

I can't find any more children for Arthur and Millicent, but perhaps they moved somewhere else before returning to Bombay and that other place isn't covered by FMP?

[Qwackers]

thanks merry will try to check more .

[kiterunner]

Just wanted to add that Algernon Cyrus Reel can't be Cyril, because he died in 1903.

[kiterunner]

A free search on the British Newspaper Archive for Cyril Reel brings up some mentions in theatrical notices in Scotland from 1921 and 1922. Searching Scotland's People for the name comes up with nothing. No idea whether it is your Cyril or not, but because it comes up a few times in the newspaper search I don't think it is one of their typical mistranscriptions. Of course it could be a stage name.

[Qwackers]

very interesting . thanks

[Merry]

A free search on the British Newspaper Archive for Cyril Reel brings up some mentions in theatrical notices in Scotland from 1921 and 1922. Searching Scotland's People for the name comes up with nothing. No idea whether it is your Cyril or not, but because it comes up a few times in the newspaper search I don't think it is one of their typical mistranscriptions. Of course it could be a stage name.

When Irene Amy Margaret Louise Reel married in London in 1929 her occupation on the cert is Actress! She says her father is Arthur Henry not Arthur George Watkins, but all the other details fit, so it probably is her.