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Lynn the Forest Fan
13-08-23, 07:05
I have been making the most of the last few days of my Ancestry sub by checking Thrulines to see if I could take any lines back further. I was looking at Elizabeth Stafford c1796, who I have in 1841 in Milton Gravesend Kent, with husband Thomas Levy c1789 and daughter Elizabeth c1821. Thrulines suggested her parents were James Stafford and Hannah Trowell baptised in Chatham in 1883. Elizabeth and Thomas married in 1811, so I would imagine a birth date of 1783 might be more likely than 1796. The trees I am looking at today seem very different from the ones I saw yesterday but there were definitely some that had this information.
As I was looking at the different records, I noticed a burial for Elizabeth Levy in 1849 in Milton, which is the date I had for her dying, however this person was 26. I checked the record on CityArk which confirmed the age as 26, suggesting that the death was of Elizabeth junior, although she would have been 27 not 26.
In 1851, Thomas is living in Milton as a widower, despite Ancestry transcribing his visitor as his wife, so what happened to Elizabeth senior? I can't find another death for her or anything to suggest that Elizabeth junior didn't die.

maggie_4_7
13-08-23, 07:21
Well from tne 1851 census Thomas is a widow so she died between 1841 and 1851.

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/1393370:8860?tid=&pid=&queryId=2831463a738fba84e4ba9c301cbbd5a4&_phsrc=bBl881&_phstart=successSource

So I think this is her:

LEVY, ELIZABETH 56
GRO Reference: 1849 M Quarter in GRAVESEND AND MILTON Volume 05 Page 144

They always mess up on Census when other wives are in the household.

Lynn the Forest Fan
13-08-23, 07:38
That is the record that I had which I now think is for Elizabeth junior, where did you get the age 56?

maggie_4_7
13-08-23, 07:40
That is the record that I had which I now think is for Elizabeth junior, where did you get the age 56?

Its on the GRO which would be on the death certificate, its £2.50 to get a digital image to check the actual image of the death certificate.

Lynn the Forest Fan
13-08-23, 07:53
I was looking on Ancestry, which didn't have that info. Thanks

maggie_4_7
13-08-23, 07:58
Could this be the younger Elizabeth

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/1438457:8860?tid=&pid=&queryId=96de5853b4c4e2e7becf100811ea2c0d&_phsrc=PSQ773&_phstart=successSource

Lynn the Forest Fan
13-08-23, 08:02
It could be, thanks

Lynn the Forest Fan
13-08-23, 12:00
I bought the image and it is the correct Elizabeth, living at the same address as husband Thomas was in 1851. The date is 6 days before the burial date, so her age must have been written wrong.
This makes her unlikely to be the daughter of James Stafford & Hannah Trowell as Thrulines suggested.There are loads of trees that have a different Elizabeth being their daughter anyway. It is interesting to look through the trees and see how one person can be shown with 2 totally different families, which is why I always like to double check before adding anything to my tree.

maggie_4_7
13-08-23, 12:10
Yes thrulines can be helpful but sometimes very unhelpful!

On the 1841 census it says Y to born in county.

maggie_4_7
13-08-23, 12:18
I assume you have their marriage in Gillingham, Kent 25 Dec 1811.

Lynn the Forest Fan
13-08-23, 15:18
Yes I have thanks. The parish records for Kent are pretty good.