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ElizabethHerts
12-01-23, 13:18
wife

Name
Jane Hall

Date and place of birth

c. 1779
Ashton under Lyne or Stalybridge

Names of parents


Date and place of baptism
Unknown


Details of each of his or her marriages
married Joseph Newton
15 November 1807 at Manchester
by licence

Known children
Hannah
Christening Date: 24 Jan 1808 :
Christening Place: Old St George, Staleybridge, Cheshire, England
Father's Name: Joseph Newton
Mother's Name: Jane

James
Christening Date: 17 Mar 1811
Christening Place: Old St George, Staleybridge, Cheshire, England
Father's Name: Joseph Newton
Mother's Name: Jane Newton


Censuses

1841

1851
72
Bankside, St Saviour, St Saviour Southwark, London & Surrey
with servant

1861
Falcon Dock, Bankside, Southwark, Surrey
82
with servant

Died
Age 87 at death
Widow of Joseph Newton Fire brick maker
Cause of death: Failure of circulation and fatal coma from old age Certified
Informant: L. Scott present at the death Residence: 78 Bankside, Southwark

Buried
Name: Jane Newton
Gender: Female
Burial Date: 14 Jul 1865
Burial Place: St. Giles, Camberwell, Surrey, England
Age: 86
Birth Date: 1779


Will
Will 535
11 August 1865 with a Codicil
Effects under £3,000


NEWTON Jane. 11 August.
The Will with a Codicil of Jane Newton late of Bankside Southwark in the County of Surrey widow deceased who died 6 July 1865 at Central Hill Upper Norwood in the County aforesaid was proved at the Principal Registry by the Oaths of James Newton of Bankside aforesaid Brick and Tile Merchant the Son and Joseph Newton of Bankside aforesaid Brick and Tile Merchant the Grandson two of the Executors.

ElizabethHerts
12-01-23, 13:26
When Jane's son James Newton married in 1834, one of the witnesses was Arnold Hall, son of James and Martha Hall of Stalybridge. Arnold was born in 1807. I have been developing a tree for Arnold and the Halls but still can't see where Jane Hall fits in.

kiterunner
12-01-23, 14:59
Have you already ruled these out?
18 May 1777 Stalybridge baptism of Jenny, daughter of John Hall, clothier of Cocker-hill(?) and Nancy.
9 Feb 1777 Stalybridge baptism of Jenny, daughter of Thomas Hall, cloth-miller of Stalybridge, and Sarah. (Presumably died in infancy.)
1 Mar 1778 Stalybridge baptism of Jinney, daughter of Thomas Hall, cloth miller of Stalybridge, and Sarah.

ElizabethHerts
12-01-23, 15:31
Have you already ruled these out?
18 May 1777 Stalybridge baptism of Jenny, daughter of John Hall, clothier of Cocker-hill(?) and Nancy.
9 Feb 1777 Stalybridge baptism of Jenny, daughter of Thomas Hall, cloth-miller of Stalybridge, and Sarah. (Presumably died in infancy.)
1 Mar 1778 Stalybridge baptism of Jinney, daughter of Thomas Hall, cloth miller of Stalybridge, and Sarah.

I've been looking at them, Kate.
I've been doing an Ancestry tree for Arnold Hall's family but haven't tied these in.

Perhaps I'll do one for these families.

ElizabethHerts
12-01-23, 17:15
I've started a tree with Jinney as the root person.

Thomas and Sarah Hall had a daughter Harriot born c. 1784.
One entry for the baptism says this:

Harriot Hall
Thomas Hall of Stayley Bridge Cloth Miller Son of Joseph Hall
Sarah Daughter of Cowper
Born Feb 9th
Baptised March 14

Thomas Hall and Sarah Cooper married on 22nd August 1773 at St Michael, Ashton-under-Lyne.
Thomas might have been born c. 1750.

The Joseph and Martha Hall whose descendants include Arnold married on 26 June 1748 at Saint Michael,Ashton Under Lyne, so it is feasible for them to be Thomas' parents.

Joseph died in 1799 and there was an administration. Joseph Hall, Hatter, and James Hall, cotton manufacturer, were administrators. I think they were his sons. No Thomas mentioned, but that isn't necessarily a problem.

ElizabethHerts
13-01-23, 09:59
I've found the memorial inscription for Thomas Hall and some of his family members. There is a very good website for St George Stalybridge:
https://d3hgrlq6yacptf.cloudfront.net/5f1ac49633f5c/content/pages/documents/1332002570-memorials-a4.pdf

HERE WAS INTERRED THE BODY OF
JENNY DAUGHTER OF THOMAS HALL OF
STAYLEY BRIDGE WHO DIED APRIL 5TH 1777
IN THE FIRST YEAR OF HER AGE. ALSO
HARRIET HIS DAUGHTER WHO DEPARTED
THIS LIFE JULY 19TH 1785 IN THE 3RD YEAR
OF HER AGE. ALSO SARAH WIFE OF THE
ABOVE THOMAS HALL WHO DEPARTED THIS
LIFE JUNE 29TH 1792 IN THE 40TH YEAR OF
HER AGE. ALSO THE SAID THOMAS HALL
OF STAYLEY BRIDGE, CLOTH MILLER, WHO
DEPARTED THIS LIFE DEC. 7TH 1794 IN THE
45TH YEAR OF HIS AGE. ALSO THOMAS SON OF
NEDDY & SARAH HALL WHO DIED 18TH MARCH
1806 AGED 15 WEEKS. ALSO OF THE ABOVE
NEDDY HALL WHO DEPARTED THIS LIFE
MAY 31ST 1839 IN THE 59TH YEAR OF HIS AGE.
ALSO SARAH HALL HIS WIFE WHO DEPARTED
THIS LIFE AGE. 26TH 1847 IN THE 66TH YEAR
OF HER AGE. ALSO SELINA WIFE OF ROBERT
KNOTT, WHO DIED FEB.26TH 1909 IN HER 734D
YEAR. ALSO OF HARRIET ANN DAUGHTER OF
ROBERT & SELINA KNOTT WHO DIED APRIL 1ST
1941 AGED 76 YEARS.

Thomas Hall doesn't appear to have left a will, which is a great shame.