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kiterunner
16-12-22, 22:12
Sorry, this is going to be one of those long reads!

I have managed to figure out from my DNA matches that my 3xg-grandfather was Henry Parker born about 1822 Southwark, son of James Parker 1796-1867 and Mary Ann Colwell 1805-1886. I haven't found a baptism for Henry but I have DNA matches on his father's side and on his mother's father's side (her father being Edward Augustus Caesar Burnaby), so even though Henry was born a few years before James and Mary Ann's marriage, I am confident that they are both his parents. James was baptised 16 Jul 1796 Alverstoke, Hampshire, and Mary Ann was baptised 17 Nov 1805 St James Westminster - Maryann B.B. (= base born) daur of Maryann Colwell & Edwd Berneby, born 23 Oct 1805. There is no mention of her in Edward Burnaby's will.

James and Mary Ann's marriage record:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/1623/images/31281_a101401-00049?pId=302415
17 Dec 1827 at St Bride Fleet Street, City of London. James is a widower, Mary Ann a spinster, witnesses Samuel Carver and Henry Burrell.

Is this James's first marriage?
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/61867/images/61865_324054000599_0260-00292?treeid=19209336&personid=262414956884&rc=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=UMN44986&_phstart=successSource&pId=1955860
23 Nov 1817 St James Westminster, James Parker and Mary Colwell, both OTP. Witnesses Samuel Carver and M Colwell.

I looked at this a while ago and thought it might be a coincidence, but I have just realised that Samuel Carver is a witness at both so I don't think so.

Possible Carver / Parker connection or maybe an actual coincidence - Erasmus Carver of Alverstoke, bachelor, married Sarah Parker of Fareham, Hants, spinster, 20 Mar 1754 at St George in the East, London.

There are some people who I think must be James Parker's children by his first wife, because they seem too old to be children by his second wife, but I haven't found baptisms for them (but there are a lot of non-conformists in this family): Joseph Parker born about 1818 Surrey, Margaret Susannah Parker born about 1818 Lambeth, and James Parker born about 1820 Southwark. (Or there could be a confusion between Jas and Jos and maybe Joseph and James are the same person!)

I think Mary Ann Colwell sr is the one who was born 26 Oct 1788 Westminster, daughter of Edward Farnell Colwell and Mary Feary, baptised 23 Nov 1788 at St James Westminster. I don't know when her mother died so she could be the M Colwell who is a witness at that 1817 wedding.

I was hoping that James Parker didn't marry his stepdaughter but I am starting to think that maybe he did? Can anyone find anything to prove it either way?

Phoenix
17-12-22, 07:53
It looks as if Samuel Carver married SARAH Colwell at Picadilly in 1807: https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/1623/images/31547_212694-00551?backlabel=ReturnSearchResults&queryId=74d72cfda61aa72a6f08eea96595a651&pId=10121384

Phoenix
17-12-22, 08:01
Sarah was the daughter of William and Susannah Colwell, and at the baptism of Samuel and Sarah's son Samuel Ebeneezer Carver, a Mary Colwell was a witness with Margaret Griffin: https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=TNA%2FRG4%2F4661_2%2F0%2F0434&parentid=TNA%2FRG4%2FBAP%2F1444912

kiterunner
17-12-22, 10:10
Thanks very much for that, Phoenix. Gives me some more Colwells to look at!

kiterunner
17-12-22, 13:21
There is a Mary Colwell, daughter of William and Susanna, born 26 May 1784 at White Friars, baptised 27 Jun 1784 at St Dunstan in the West, so she could be a sister to Sarah and could be James Parker's first wife. Also the witness to Samuel Ebeneezer Carver's baptism. M. Colwell the witness at James and Mary's wedding could be Margaret Colwell, another sister.

garstonite
27-12-22, 13:01
is this of any use to you ??
https://gw.geneanet.org/john1957a?n=burnaby&oc=&p=edward+august+ceasar

also - Edward Farnell Colwell also married Jane Hale at St Martins in the Fields , Westminster

kiterunner
27-12-22, 13:03
Not really but thanks, Allan.

garstonite
27-12-22, 13:10
did you know about this - also on Geneanet
also - Edward Farnell Colwell also married Jane Hale at St Martins in the Fields , Westminster between 1750 and 1800 - pay per view for the record

kiterunner
27-12-22, 13:20
Yes, I have got that already - they got married 31 Oct 1793.