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Merry
30-09-22, 15:28
I haven't forgotten about the David McCrery thread, but I've just found another McCrery that may or may not be connected to my lot, but there are some gaps I can't bridge...

First I found this:

1881 Census Flitwick, Bedfordshire
Sophie Mc Creery serv unm 69 domestic servant b Northill, Bedfordshire

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/7572/images/BDFRG11_1634_1639-0378?ssrc=&backlabel=Return&pId=141901

However, in 1871 she is a widow and living with her widowed sister....

1871 Census Westoning, Bedfordshire
Sophia Maclarey sister widow 60 rent of cottages independent b Northill, Bedfordshire

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/7619/images/BDFRG10_1553_1555-0577?backlabel=ReturnSearchResults&queryId=c4e421617dff5c441ebcedd6ad81a81b&pId=7837257

I've not yet found Sophia in 1861, but in 1851 she is a widow with one daughter in Norton Folgate, Middlesex:

Sophia M'Creery head widow 43 sempstress b Beds Northill

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/8860/images/MDXHO107_1542_1543-0357?ssrc=&backlabel=Return&pId=339009

This is her daughter:

MCCRURY, ANN SOPHIA PRESTON
GRO Reference: 1842 M Quarter in THE WHITECHAPEL UNION Volume 02 Page 547 (died 1859 Q1 Whitechapel)

and this is her marriage:

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/5530740:1623?tid=&pid=&queryId=36b65b745ed77bac25de38e1f09efda2&_phsrc=psY33893&_phstart=successSource

...in Aug 1841 to Robert McCreery office clerk, son of William McCreery schoolmaster.

As well as dau Ann Sophia, there's also:

MCCREERY, PHOEBE SARAH PRESTON
GRO Reference: 1843 J Quarter in SAINT LUKE MIDDLESEX Volume 02 Page 263 (died 1847 Q1 Shoreditch)

No baptisms for either dau as far as I could see.

So.... Robert should have died 1842-1851 but I can't find anything. Also 1841 census?? (I've not yet looked for 6 John St Islington,3 from the marriage PR, Aug '41)

It looks as if there's no surviving issue for this couple so really it's now just Robert I'm interested in (Sophia remarried in 1881 to John Wilson and died in 1884).

Of course Robert may be nothing to do with me, it's just that having a wife from Bedfordshire seems significant (Northill is 7 miles from Kempston were some of my McCrerys lived), plus no baps for children and dying young without surviving issue matches most of my other McCrerys! Robert's father, William, could potentially be the brother of David on the other thread, b abt 1762, probably in Kempston, Beds.
kiterunner
30-09-22, 15:43
There seem to have been a lot of different John Streets in Islington.
kiterunner
30-09-22, 15:46
Possible for Robert in 1841?

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/8978/images/MDXHO107_668_670-0053?treeid=&personid=&rc=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=UMN26991&_phstart=successSource&pId=7123155

Helmet(?) Row, St Luke, Middlesex
Sophia Creery 50 N
Robt Do 25 Copying Cl Y
Joseph Do 11 Y.
kiterunner
30-09-22, 15:51
Possible death - Robert Creery Oct-Dec 1848 Whitechapel age 34.
kiterunner
30-09-22, 15:52
This is the burial record for that 1848 death and the abode is Norton Folgate:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/1559/images/31280_194741-00216?treeid=&personid=&rc=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=UMN26994&_phstart=successSource&pId=9177601
kiterunner
30-09-22, 15:58
There are some non-conformist birth / baptism records for children who could be older siblings of Robert and Joseph - Joseph Creary born 27 Mar 1820 and Christiana Creery born 30 May 1827, both have parents William and Sophia. Tichfield Street Calvinist Independent, St Marylebone (on Ancestry). It doesn't seem to give father's occupation though.
kiterunner
30-09-22, 16:02
Okay, this is the marriage of William McCreery and Sophia Sturges, the parents of the elder Joseph and of Christiana - can't say for sure whether they are also the parents of Robert and the younger Joseph! But the name Sturges appears on this marriage and on those baptisms mentioned in post #6:

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/1623/images/31281_a102238-00061?treeid=&personid=&rc=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=UMN26996&_phstart=successSource&pId=1153102

It does show that this family used both Creery and McCreery.
kiterunner
30-09-22, 16:12
Burial record:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/2972/images/40612_B0151306-00216?treeid=&personid=&rc=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=UMN26998&_phstart=successSource&pId=3961056

15 Dec 1830 Bunhill Fields, London - Willm McCreary, 64 years, Norman Street, St Lukes, which is the same address as on Christiana's baptism.

So this William was born about 1766.
Merry
30-09-22, 16:19
Oooh, thanks Kate!! This will def give me some things to work on! I'm off to London soon and am busy getting OH, son andd Tabitha sorted out so they don't starve in the next 36 hours!

I will be back to look more closely on Sunday. Unfortunately the witnesses are all from the bride's side :o Events being in London is OK as the McCrerys only managed two entries in Bedfordshire and most marriages were in London (St Geo Bloomsbury)

Thanks again for your help!
Merry
30-09-22, 16:20
Burial record:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/2972/images/40612_B0151306-00216?treeid=&personid=&rc=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=UMN26998&_phstart=successSource&pId=3961056

15 Dec 1830 Bunhill Fields, London - Willm McCreary, 64 years, Norman Street, St Lukes, which is the same address as on Christiana's baptism.

So this William was born about 1766.

Oooh, close enough!!
Merry
03-10-22, 08:17
This is probably the death record for Sophia Creery nee Sturges:

CREERY, SOPHIA 52
GRO Reference: 1842 M Quarter in SAINT LUKE, MIDDLESEX Volume 02 Page 208

Dau Christiana was buried aged 14 months in 1828.

The first Joseph has "child dead" alongside his baptism record.

I can't find what happened to Joseph aged 11 in 1841. He is not the Joseph who was buried in April 1871 aged 34 (too young really) as that man was born in Yorkshire.
Merry
03-10-22, 12:36
No sign of a Sophia Sturges born around 1790.
kiterunner
03-10-22, 19:01
Sophia Sturges married in 1807 so maybe born a few years before 1790. The witnesses on her marriage record are John Sturges, Eliza Sturges, Mary Sturges. Shame they aren't less common names!

Ooh, but on Christina's baptism there is a column Grandparents mother's side. I hadn't actually looked at the column heading before. So Sophia's parents are John and Ann Sturges.
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/2972/images/40612_B0151665-00011?treeid=&personid=&rc=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=UMN27872&_phstart=successSource&pId=543053

Same on Joseph's baptism.
Merry
03-10-22, 20:32
Lol I saw that yesterday, but had forgotten by today ;(

I agree that she may have been born a little earlier.