Sarah Agnes Bingley or Hart

[ElizabethHerts]

I'm trying to do a tree for a DNA match with my OH.

Sarah Agnes B Hart married John Thomas Coates in Q1 1904 at Grimsby, Lincolnshire.

1911 Census:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/2352/images/rg14_19979_0999_03?pId=26064212

She says she was born at Sheffield. Online trees say she was born in 1880.

I couldn't find a registration for her in the name of Hart but then I found Sarah A Bingley born Sheffield at Grimsby in 1891:

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/6598/images/LINRG12_2617_2619-0375?pId=19520279


Then I found this birth registration:
BINGLEY, SARAH AGNES - GRO Reference: 1883 S Quarter in ECCLESALL BIERLOW Volume 09C Page 360

How does she tie in with the Burnett family?

Now I think I have found her here with Elizabeth Burnett as a daughter in 1901.
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/18043217:7814?tid=&pid=&queryId=ddca3c2e2c997c1dea3a07c4cbbfb4c1&_phsrc=Uml65&_phstart=successSource

I'm confused - where is the Bingley and Hart connection?

[ElizabethHerts]

This is the birth registration of Clarence Burnett.

First name(s) Clarence
Last name Burnett
Birth quarter 1
Birth year 1886
Mother's maiden name -
District Caistor
County Lincolnshire
Country England
Volume 7A
Page 676
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Births
Collections from Great Britain, England

I couldn't find it on the GRO.

[ElizabethHerts]

Ah, here is Ada's birth registration:

First name(s) Ada
Last name Burnett
Birth quarter 2
Birth year 1887
Mother's maiden name Bringley
District Caistor
County Lincolnshire
Country England
Volume 7A
Page 620
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Births
Collections from Great Britain, England

[ElizabethHerts]

Ambrose:

First name(s) Ambrose
Last name Burnett
Birth quarter 3
Birth year 1888
Mother's maiden name Bingley
District Caistor
County Lincolnshire
Country England
Volume 7A
Page 600
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Births
Collections from Great Britain, England

[ElizabethHerts]

I haven't found a marriage for Henry Burnett and Elizabeth Bingley.

[Phoenix]

I wondered whether the eldest children had a different mother, given the large gap in the middle. Also, is Henry a seaman? He looks as if he is with someone called Fanny in 1911, saying he hs been married 40 years. Or have I got that wrong?

[kiterunner]

On the 1891 census Sarah is a visitor while the younger children are Henry's sons and daughter.

[ElizabethHerts]

On the 1891 census Sarah is a visitor while the younger children are Henry's sons and daughter.

Yes, I have the link above, Kate.

I'm trying to work on Elizabeth Bingley.

When I look at some records I see I have viewed them before. I'm sure the name Hart rings a bell, but I can't remember the connection. :mad:

[Phoenix]

I think Henry might have lived a complicated life. This is Hannah Maria's birth:

BURNETT, HANNAH MARIA WILKINSON
GRO Reference: 1875 M Quarter in CAISTOR Volume 07A Page 638

[ElizabethHerts]

Elizabeth was born c. 1853 in Sheffield.


BINGLEY, ELIZABETH TAYLOR
GRO Reference: 1852 S Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 09C Page 318

BINGLEY, BETSY TURNER
GRO Reference: 1854 S Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 09C Page 238

[ElizabethHerts]

I think Henry might have lived a complicated life. This is Hannah Maria's birth:

BURNETT, HANNAH MARIA WILKINSON
GRO Reference: 1875 M Quarter in CAISTOR Volume 07A Page 638

Yes, I found another one with the mmn as Wilkinson.


OH has ancestors in both Yorkshire, including Sheffield, and Lincolnshire.

[Phoenix]

And this is the family in 1881:

Wife is from Sheffield, but apparently a Harriet:

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBC%2F1881%2F4316033%2F00672&parentid=GBC%2F1881%2F0014806279

[Phoenix]

And Harriet's death:


Deaths Mar 1885 (>99%)Burnett Harriet 33 Caistor 7a419

[ElizabethHerts]

Thanks, Phoenix.

[Phoenix]

Ah, if this is Henry's death, then the family collapsed:

Deaths Dec 1893 (>99%)
Burnett Henry 50 Caistor 7a 469

[ElizabethHerts]

In 1871 Henry is in Sheffield with Harriet Wilkinson:

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/7619/images/WRYRG10_4695_4697-0218?pId=28497690

[Phoenix]

It would be interesting to see what Sarah said on the marriage certificate

Her step brothers and sisters would have known she wasn't their father's daughter. She might have asked her mother, so she had someting to enter on the register.

[ElizabethHerts]

It would be interesting to see what Sarah said on the marriage certificate

Her step brothers and sisters would have known she wasn't their father's daughter. She might have asked her mother, so she had someting to enter on the register.

Nobody seems to have bothered to buy the marriage certificate. The online trees have no parents for her.

[ElizabethHerts]

Update:

My tree developed from an Ancestry tree with just 37 people in it has now revealed the DNA connection.

This person is a mutual DNA match with the person whose tree I have been investigating in this thread. There is only one other shared match - they are parent and child, it seems.

It was a Lincolnshire connection going back to the hamlet of Braceby where OH's Lincolnshire Newton family lived. Ann Dawson married Thomas Newton and the line in question descends from one of her sisters.

I can't yet see the connection between the tree with the proven connection and the tree relating to this thread yet, but if I pursue the Lincolnshire lines I should find it in time.

I shall contact the DNA match in the next day or two with my findings.